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Mick.B 13th Aug 2008 09:55

RAAF Hawk a little low
 
From Defence Media

Defence has begun an investigation into what caused an Air Force Hawk 127 to divert to Coffs Harbour airport this morning.

Two Hawk aircraft were conducting a routine training mission, when the pilot of one aircraft declared an airborne emergency and diverted to Coffs Harbour.

The damaged Hawk circled over the ocean to reduce its fuel load, and the pilot of the second aircraft conducted a visual check for damage.

The damaged aircraft landed safely at Coffs Harbour airport while the second returned to RAAF Base Williamtown near Newcastle. There were no injuries.

“Air Force provides intensive training so our pilots are well prepared to handle contingencies like this. The two Hawk pilots dealt with this incident in a calm and professional way,” Group Captain Alan Clements, Chief of Staff, Air Combat Group, said.

“Air Force is serious about safety. Two Defence teams are travelling to Coffs Harbour. One team includes aviation safety specialists who will investigate what caused the incident. The investigation will focus on the probability the aircraft clipped a power line approximately 25 nautical miles east of Armidale,” Group Captain Clements said.

The second team will conduct a detailed damage assessment. The Hawk has sustained some damage to its left wing. It is uncertain at this stage what it will cost to repair the aircraft.

Both aircraft belong to 76 Squadron at RAAF Williamtown. Air Force operates Hawk 127s as a lead-in fighter training aircraft.

Pic at Low-flying top gun's a real goose - National - smh.com.au

Video at EMERGENCY LANDING OF RAAF HAWK : NBN

taxydual 13th Aug 2008 10:07

Wasn't there an F4 that picked up a wire around it's windscreen in the Falklands in the mid '80's?

Wasn't it from the only telephone line on West Falkland?

Weren't the home-made telephone poles only 12' high?

WASALOADIE 13th Aug 2008 10:44

F4 Wirestrike
 
I was in the Falklands at the time of the F4 wirestrike. IIRC the wire was at Saunders Island and was an HF radio wire strung between two poles about 30ft high. Didnt know he'd done it until he returned to MPA and his groundcrew found the damage. Some flyby it must have been.

ORAC 13th Aug 2008 10:47

IIRC, it was a radio aerial; and when the plods went to investigate the height of said aerial, the inhabitants of the reputed location stoutly denied it had happened and refused to cooperate. :ok:

As the CBFFI said, it was the only place he knew where he received complaints because settlements didn't receive regular flypasts.....

taxydual 13th Aug 2008 10:49

Ah, an HF aerial. 30' thats OK then. Wasn't Smoky was on the Unit Inquiry?

Gainesy 13th Aug 2008 11:00

I vaguely recall talk at Honington of a Bucc on det in Norway landing at Bardufoss(?) with a good length of Noggy phone wire wrapped around the fin/tailplane bullet.:uhoh:

Course it may have been strung across a valley. Maybe.:suspect:

The Helpful Stacker 13th Aug 2008 11:18

Is it true that those Buccaneer chaps often had to ascend in order to put the undercarriage down?

;)

cornish-stormrider 13th Aug 2008 11:25

I heard many a war story about the bucc's coming back with green "paint" on the underside - some even had little brown sticks as well. I saw photos taken of bucc's doing a beatup and it looked like the intake was level with the head of a guy standing on a houchin.

Bucc's, how low can you go??

ORAC 13th Aug 2008 11:38

Many, many, moons ago, there was a Jag mate who took off the top of the fin hitting the bottom wire between a couple of pylons. He claimed, over a few pints, that he would have got away with it if he hadn't instinctively pulled up slightly, when he first saw them, before deciding he had to go under.

Ali Barber 13th Aug 2008 12:34

And there was the Jag in Oman that collected the hand rail at one of the ranges! And the famous car-strike!

asiaseen 13th Aug 2008 12:34

In 1985 a SOAF Jaguar bounced off the top of a car on the Thumrait to Salalah road. Immediate end of contract for the pilot.

chiglet 13th Aug 2008 14:27

Saw two [RN] Buccs fly under the Type80 at Buchan.....:ok:
watp,iktch

WASALOADIE 13th Aug 2008 16:11

Ah, an HF aerial. 30' thats OK then. Wasn't Smoky was on the Unit Inquiry?
 
Taxydual: you are quite correct, Smokey was in charge of the inquiry. Seem to remember the F4 pilot was known as "Kenny", shared the same surname as a well known comedian at the time.

I also believe that he took the aerial wire whilst at a high angle of bank so wingtip clearance was not a lot.

Locals did indeed deny it but word soon got around that they thought it was the best flyby seen.

Gainesy 13th Aug 2008 16:37

Was that Smokey from the Chinook world, or another one?

taxydual 13th Aug 2008 16:42

Yup, Smokey of the Chinook world. Ex OC 78

Gainesy 13th Aug 2008 17:04

Hah! Bloody cheek. :)

Twas Smokey who demoed to me how to go under HT wires in a Wokka when he was on 7.

asiaseen 13th Aug 2008 20:52

Although the picture is a composite, with the bomb splashes added later, this was taken from the flight deck of HMS Eagle, height 80ft AWL.

http://www.pixcastle.com/pic/3001IQZqg/311772.jpg

herkman 13th Aug 2008 21:44

Well the Hawk has two slashes in the l/h mainplain leading edge.

Perhaps duty officer for a while to consider the situation.

Good thing no one was hurt.

Regards

Col

Ogre 14th Aug 2008 02:56

We've had a few scratchy heads around here trying to work out what sort of power lines they could have been. The spacing of the dents on the wing don't appear to match up with any known cable spacing. Must have been at a funny angle....

Talking of banana jets, there was a flight of four in Turkey I think (mid 80's) flying down a valley when they came across cables strung across the valley. From what I was told, 1 went over, 2 and 3 went under, and 4 went through! Got back safe with no refueling probe or canopy and a white face navigator (the cable apparently had gone up the nose, up the windscreen, through the canopy and hit the blast shield in front of the Nav).

layman 14th Aug 2008 04:25

slight thread drift
 
from SMH article

"...the jet landed safely and taxied back to the airport terminal under its own steam."

An interesting concept in propulsion for any aircraft let alone the military. Or is this a secret that good investigative journalism has uncovered?


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