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vecvechookattack 29th Dec 2009 17:57


Were it that simple. Your sqn Ad must complete the ASR with the users PUID.
Which takes about 30 seconds. Then you send the new ASR to Atlas and they will add you to the new unit. The problem with the way you are doing it is expecting the AD to sort it out. One of the Squadron aircrew must be the IT security Officer...or the LSO....they can do it very quickly. On my last Squadron the Ops Officer was the LSO / ITSO and he did it all for the entire Squadron.

CounterSunk 29th Dec 2009 18:52


C_S - in August you were concerned that it wouldn't get rolled out. Now you are concerned that it will get rolled out.

Would anything make you happy?
Mr C. Back in August I was concerned that a stalled roll-out would effectively isolate some units/HQ's due to a lack of synch between DII and legacy networks. Having tasted DII, albeit very briefly, I am certainly not a fan.

Now we are (apparently) getting the remainder of the common platform (however flawed it may be) at least we will all be on a joined-up 'grid'.....if this is true though; how will the beancounters justify the jaw dropping cost of delivery when the media focus is most definately on the lack of funding/equipment/support to current Ops in Afghanistan?

vecvechookattack 20th Jan 2010 16:55

TheMinistry of Defence(MoD) has awarded the Atlas Consortium, led by HP, an $890m contract as part of the Defence Information Infrastructure (DII) programme.

The contract work will aim to "improve global collaboration and communication between MoD and its allies".

The contract, called Increment 3a, is the next phase of the DII.

It will see Atlas providing 42,000 computer terminals, which will operate in the "restricted and secret" domains. The new equipment will apparently replace "outdated and expensive legacy systems".

The terminals will support 60,000 employees in the Royal Air Force, Joint Helicopter Command and other MoD locations.

The Atlas consortium also includes Fujitsu, EADS Defence and Security Systems, General Dynamics and Logica.


Huw Owen, chief executive officer, ATLAS Consortium and vice president, HP Enterprise Services Defence and Security in the UK, said: "It is critical to national defence that the MoD and its allies have highly secure and real-time global access to the information they need."

DII is the largest defence IT programme of its type in the world. When delivered in full, IT implemented under the project will provide services to around 300,000 users at some 2,000 locations worldwide.




The terminals will support 60,000 employees in the Royal Air Force, Joint Helicopter Command and other MoD locations.
Crikey....that surely must be one PC each...!!!!

oldgrubber 20th Jan 2010 19:15

expensive legacy machines
 
You're not joking about expensive legacy machines. The trouble is we're stuck with having to pay a truly mind boggling amount for every legacy machine that is retained after DII rollout. So the RN and RAF introduce an aircraft management system for their Merlin fleets that's not supported (at the same time as DII rollout), and the system now requires NOA machines to function.
Cracking!
The shame is DII actually does seem to work!
(Vecvechookattack will know how much per legacy machine it costs, I'm sure)

Pontius Navigator 20th Jan 2010 19:37

at a cost of two CVS

VitaminGee 22nd Jul 2010 09:42

2009 DII(F) User Satisfaction Survey Feedback
 
The Survey and results were independently assessed and reflected that overall performance of the DII(F) service is typical for a programme of its size, complexity and maturity, at this point in its life-cycle.
:rolleyes:

Methinks the words in italics could be condensed into a single word, any suggestions..............?

Gainesy 22nd Jul 2010 10:13

Size, Complexity And Maturity

newbiep 23rd Jul 2010 20:53

On the recieving end of DII at the moment and I agree it does seem to work, but having been in the commercial sector too, IT is something that you have to throw money at to make work, unless you have some intelligent and hard working professionals on hand happy to take ownership and see the project through. Happily those people exist, but get posted around and don't get the opportunity to see systems through to the end. All new implementations need people who understand the locale and the customer and who can identify users that effectively test the system to distruction through normal usage to iron out bugs. It would be really helpful if this implementation team was centralised and moved around en masse or left in their current posting to see the project through from start to finish. Equally a good system would be for a floating team(s) to move from base to base to start and finish the project. Would make life so much easier for the user!

vecvechookattack 23rd Jul 2010 20:58

Id totally agree....having been with Dii(f) for over 12 months now it really is loads better than Navystar ..... Dii(f) works....its fast....the Broadband speed is reasonable....the wifi capability is OK (adequate).....


Its not the best IT network available BUT its the best we could afford

Pontius Navigator 23rd Jul 2010 21:42

Vec, the best we could afford? You must be joking. The price of two CVS?

Security is so tight it throttles the process. To close down a Dii/c account took 20 minutes. To restart the Dii/f account took a week. To add new accounts should take a day for up to 5 and longer for more. You need to jump through hoops to get anything done. You need to be on top of the game to follow things through. The bigger the organisation the more you need one person to keep on to Atlas.

If you ever get hold of a trouble shooters email address or telephone number, guard it with your life.

vecvechookattack 24th Jul 2010 08:19

I'm just saying that it is a heap better than the last thing.... who wants to go back to snailband, no Colour Printer....No Laptop....No Wifi....No scanners....the IT we have now is loads better than it was....

A new bloke joined our Office last week (unannounced - a sort of pierhead jump) . He joined at 08:00....he contacted the I-Hub at 08:15 and by 9am he was logged on. That efficiency wouldn't have happened with Navystar

proplover 26th Jul 2010 23:05

Lost sight of this thread for a quite a while and interested to see the latest comments.
Believe me in 'F' your paying a lot for what your getting. Also believe me that the companies actually doing the work are not the ones getting the big ££££'s either.


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