In the CT4? :ok: sorry, couldn't resist! Google images? Although apart from general interest, not sure why you'd need it beforehand .

Figured it'd be good to have a general idea of the layout so there's less shell shock when I get in the cockpit. I've done some lessons and know how disorienting it can be at first. And the Google images results don't show the actual buttons.

The pilot aptitude test
 

HI guys,

Is any one able to tell me what is on the pilot aptitude test, in terms of math or hand eye coordination? I am scheduled to take the test this thursday the 15th of May, but I just want to make sure that I haven't been doing the wrong things for preparation.

If you could help me out that would be awesome.

Thank you,

Salamor

Researching the cockpit prior to screening isn't necessary. The only things you will need to know is how to use elevator and rudder trim, use of park brake and the joystick. Flight instruments such as vsi, altimeter, asi and the turn and bank co ordinator are really the only instruments used. Their functions are vastly more important than their location around the cockpit. I suggest focussing on basic aeronautical knowledge instead.

Regards, Alec

Hi salamor,

I just passed my second attempt at the aircrew testing today so luckily for you my mind is still fresh on the content. I personally have a few practice tests from paid sources in hard copy form so unfortunately I can't give you those...but I have found some other good sources.

Firstly, the maths is fairly basic and anyone who meets the minimum requirements for applying for pilot should do just fine. That being said, you can find specific examples of very similar time/speed/distance questions here:

Speed/Distance/Time Qs

Secondly, there is not really any way to prepare for the hand/eye coordination tests, as they really do test your base skills in that area. However, do make sure you are good with your times tables as part of the test with the touch pen and joysticks involves them. If you have a smart phone or tablet, I suggest downloading an app from GooglePlay or the apple store called GetYourWings by Blue Horizon Enterprises. It has some good practice questions including the hand/eye coord tests.

Lastly, have a read of this from the New Zealand defence force:

NZ Aircrew Aptitude test

They use a very similar testing system.

I hope this helps a little :ok:

Thank you !
 

Hi guys!

I just sat my pilot test for the first time and passed! :O Thanks to Alec and Showaard for your hints and advice, they helped a lot!


Salamor

ADF PSF
 

Hey guys,
I just received my FSP date. I have a few questions for you all:
- what do you wear while there? and what do you wear whilst flying?
- what is the PT like?
- if I am going primarily for army & navy chopper pilot, should i still read up on all three services?
- could someone explain what is the importance of wearing in your helmet to avoid hotspots??
Any other advice would be awesome as I really want to get a recommended. Thanks for your help!

A hotspot is like if you put a baseball cap on with the Velcro done up too tight. Multiplied by 100. And focused on a spot on your head, not all the way around. And you have to maintain a capacity to fly an aircraft whilst pushing through the pain.

Wearing in your helmet is a good idea because a hotspot will quickly become distracting. The key is when you're fitted, leave it on for a little while. If it's uncomfortable, tell them, and they should play with it and get it to sit better, Life Support Fitters are good at that. Don't feel like you're wasting their time or taking too long, it's important, and it's one thing you don't want to have to worry about whilst airborne because it will detract from you showing your potential.

Good luck

Hi everyone,

Just wondering about the time delay between having your file sent to Canberra and offers coming out. Also how do they contact you if you are made an offer? For anybody interested navy applicants were called today and I think tomorrow for the upcoming distribution with a start date in July I think, probably NEOC 51. I got a call so hoping to hear soon!

Interview Prep
 

Hi guys,

Does anyone know of any courses to prep for OSB and Pysc testing? I would like to do some face to face interview prep before I do the real thing. I live in Brisbane.

Cheers :ok:

Hey Matt, nothing you can really do to prepare for psych except to be sure that you know what is involved in your training and can demonstrate that you are prepared (separation from family, willing to fight for your country, etc)

For OSB, much of the same, be ready to be able to do some reasonably complex calculations in your head while under pressure, know all you can about the role, the training, RAAF in general, world events, etc, etc.

Hi Buckshot,

Thanks for the reply. I am in the RAAF already, so this will be a remuster if I get my chosen service. Are you currently an ADF PLT yourself?

When you say calculations in your head, to what degree of difficulty would they be. For example distance, speed, time calculations and multiplication ect?

Cheers

Hey mate, sent you a PM, not currently serving, but yeah they generally give you all of those types of calculations.

Hi Matt,


Shipper made a post a few months ago about the adfmentors OSB course, definitely worth checking out. I recently took their course after reading their material and seeing a few other people talk about them on here and it was fantastic. It definitely boosted me to the next level of preparation, they conducted a number of mock OSB interviews/exercises and really taught me to answer well under pressure. If you google them it should come up.

Ranopaul

Medical
 

Hi Guys,

I had assessment day about a week ago and the doctor said I to see a specialist regarding a "systolic heart mumur". I was wondering whether this will impact my application to intact join the ADF or as a Pilot. Thanks

Brenny95

Hi guys,

This is a bit unrelated to flight screening, but I'm just curious whether anybody here has any idea what the process is and how difficult it would be to switch roles later on in a RAAF career?

My reason for asking is that a recent suggestion made by DFR has been to join as an engineer and then look at possibly going for pilot again later on down the track, and I was just wondering how feasible something like this is. I will qualify this suggestion by saying that I'm currently studying aerospace eng, and it is something I'm interested in doing; so I wouldn't be doing it just for the sake of doing it or as a stepping stone to something else. That said, I do still have a desire to be a pilot if the opportunity is still there.

Could anybody provide some insight?

Cheers,

VS

Depends on your long term goals.When I was flying on the C130A,
If you had engineering qualifications you could train as a pilot on the larger aircraft and qaulify as a Captain. Things may have changed since then but if you not inquire then the chance could pass by.

All the best

regards

Col

On my FS course there was a current serving aeronautical engineer at Williamtown working on hornets He received a high recommendation and is currently at bfts. So yes it is possible, how you transfer I don't know, DFR will be your friend in that department.

Good luck.

Thanks guys that's been helpful.

Cheers,

VS

RAAF Pilot Screening
 

Hello everyone!

After having spent a good 2 days reading through the entirety of this thread, I have found a lot of great information. It's great to see such a sharing of knowledge and advice!

A little bit of context... I'm 21, and I'm halfway through a business degree. I have approximately 100 hours of flight experience and I would say I am somewhere between GFPT and PPL. I've always had a passion for aviation, and I've been airborne since I was 14 (which meant some interesting driving lessons involving both pedals!) :E

My YOU session and got a full career option result with 3 year validity, and I have the Pilot Specific Testing next Monday. So far as reading gauges, spatial awareness, or hand-eye is concerned, I feel relatively prepared, and I am doing some extra practice *cough* video games :} *cough*. One thing I'm not fully sure of is the mathematical component, but I am going over my mental flight arithmetic as much as possible.

In any case, I am hoping that next Monday goes well, because I am actually feeling more anticipation for this, than the assessment session! I'd rather have the chance to "sell" myself to actual people than to a computer program! If I'm successful, I'm hoping to go through ADFA. With the "Jump Up" program, I've heard I could potentially get credits from my current studies for their equivalent courses... Alternately, DEO would also be quite appealing, and I have both listed.

One big concern I have though is that I am short sighted, and have glasses (fully corrected). Will this impact on my application?

Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice!

Thanks,
Robert

Unfortunately any corrected vision is immediate disqualification for aircrew i.e glasses/contacts. If you google avr1, aviation visual requirements 1, the eye sight requirements for aircrew, it should outline cut off parameters. I would recommend seeing a few ophthalmologists and consulting their advice whether you can make these standards. Certain types of laser surgery is allowed, but consult an ophthalmologist for that. I'm currently in the same boat, being held back on enlistment due to an eyesight issue discovered in my post flight screening medical. For your medical on the assessment day they might determine you medically unfit prior to flight screening.

Feel free to send me a pm if you want any further advice.

Cheers, Alec

alec taylor - That advice is just plain wrong. Visual correction (within limits) is permitted for all aviation occupations. Refractive surgery to achieve recruiting limits may also be a problem. PRK and LASEK (not LASIK) are allowable, but it is the pre-operative refractive error that is often the problem. Get the information directly from DFR, not from the internet.

Cheers,

BM

Bad medicine - the 'within limits' is the key point here. I think Alec went a step to far when he said 'any corrected vision is an immediate disqualification' but as he correctly stated, you do need to be AVR 1. Here is a link to the standards - http://www.oaansw.com.au/visionstds/...s_Aviation.pdf

I was deemed medically unfit for all aircrew positions due to my eyesight following flight scrrening. I never wear glasses, but I have a Myopic Astigmatism of -1.25 in my right eye only, perfect in my left. I am corrected to better than 20/20.

I will admit perhaps not the best use of words. You have to be at avr1 standard without correction prior to entry. If your eye sight deteriorates whilst trained it is easier for you to have eye sight corrected (with glasses or contacts) than to be scrubbed. Apologies for any confusion.

In fact, you can have correction and still be AVR1. You vision can be 6/12 uncorrected, as long as it is correctable to 6/6 (and your refractive error is within the prescribed limits).

If somebody has told you otherwise, they are incorrect.

"alec taylor"
 

I think we can all agree that this so called "alec taylor" character has given out some of the worst information in this here thread

In all due respect, medical specifications are very complex to fully understand and often vary slightly on the candidates condition. I will admit perhaps I provided information that was not correct , however your comment is neither called for nor constructive. I have tried including relevant information via the forum and personal messages as accurately as I can. We seem to be in the same boat, both negatively affecting this forum, although atleast I acted in good faith.

BFTS CT-4B fleet grounded following forced landing. Anyone know about this and/or what impact it will have on current and upcoming courses?

BFTS CT-4B fleet grounded following forced landing | Australian Aviation

No effect; as of today they are no longer grounded.

'Temporarily paused flight operations', if you please!! Don't use the 'g' word!!:eek:
Interestingly, that aircraft was flown out by a BAe pilot following the incident on the same day.:uhoh:

From what I read the flight controls came free again during the final stage of the forced landing, the pilot elected to complete the F/L. One would have to imagine that after an inspection by ground crew it was deemed safe to fly back to YSTW

The final stages being after the wheels hit the ground and unjammed the control run.

Correct. (and something else in order to make up the minimum characters!)

I don't know about you cooda, but if I were executing a F/L due to control limitations and suddenly everything returned to normal, no matter what stage, I would get that thing on the ground and leave it there. I wouldn't fancy attempting a return to the air field and risk landing using only secondary effects of controls!!

BJC

We are in heated agreement regarding the actions we might take if we found ourselves in a similar situation.

I was just intrigued that there is a written report out there suggesting that the controls freed up while they were still in the air. As CSD agrees, that was not the case as I understood it.

My bad :\ read the article again "rectified upon landing"

RAAF investigation into mid-air plane incident | Namoi Valley Independent

Hey guys, anyone on here get the call up for the July 19 FSP?

Hey b91,

Congrats on your selection for the July 19th program. I'm actually on the course coming up on June 29th, so hopefully we both get the good news!

DT

Double Tap. Check your PM mate

hey b91, I got the call up today for the July 19th program, apparently only got in by the skin of my teeth :p