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captainsail 3rd Aug 2013 16:05

AnotherException,

You'll only find out about a month before the start of the course.

On that note, does anyone know roughly when ADFA offers are distributed?

BravoJulietCharlie 4th Aug 2013 00:14

Don't stress over September too much, there are still FSP dates in October and November.

Fair skies 9th Aug 2013 04:35

Thanks
 
G'day all,

After many weeks of stressing out and hitting the books I had my aptitude and psych assessment this week and was recommended.

I have to say I didn't feel like I went that well in the testing but much to my surprise I did pretty well. Now to get my app in and wait for flight screening.

Many thanks to everyone that has shared their knowledge. It's a great forum.

Have a good weekend. I know I will!

Chang Driver 10th Aug 2013 12:50

Well done Fair Skies.

Did you do your Aptitude testing on the 6th August? If so I may have actually been there talking to you on the day!

So have you have had your assessment day already as well? My understanding is this is generally booked at least a few weeks after Pilot Spec testing. If you did get them both knocked out together that's great. Nothing like keeping the ball rolling.

Anyway I got through Pilot Spec too which feels great and now have my assessment day booked for about a month away, plenty of time to study. So far the CC's I've interviewed with have been very encouraging and everything feels like its going in the right direction. Determination and motivation are higher than ever, bring on the challenges that await :)

Again thanks to all contributors to the forum, very valuable resource going here. :ok:

Fair skies 11th Aug 2013 12:27

Thanks Chang driver.

I am an in service applicant so I did the testing and psych assessment a day apart. Now my app goes off to Canberra and the wait for a flight screening date begins.

Good luck with your assessment day and in the near future.

Fair skies.

septerra 12th Aug 2013 21:08

Good day to all,

I was hoping that some one on these forums might have information on what dates/months the next intakes for the three forces are up until May 2014 [personal FSP expiry]. If any of you can share this information, I'd be very grateful.

Regards
Sep

Pigs Can Fly_92 13th Aug 2013 02:46

septerra,

I'm not sure if you were after FSP or Officer training intake dates, but if it was for FSP dates, this page is what you're looking for:

this page

Cheers

neopowered34 13th Aug 2013 03:40

Flight Screening
 
Hey Mate

There is a list on the PSA website with regard to FSP dates.

Just got news my file has been with the PSA for a week now, so fingers crossed I get a call soon!

septerra 13th Aug 2013 08:58

Hey,

Apologies, I should have made it clearer. I was looking for the dates for pilot distribution once your in the waiting pool, post FSP.

Thank you however for the prompt response. :ok:

GIA-90 14th Aug 2013 09:47

ADFA FLIGHT SCREENING
 
hey guys,

just wondering whether anyone has been put on a flight screening course for september, this is through the ADFA stream aswell.

If not, when should we be expecting a call if we are competitive enough to be put on a course?

Cheers!

neopowered34 15th Aug 2013 07:16

FSP
 
Got the call for September FSP today, very excited and motivation is now higher than ever. Time to hit the books and might see some of you there :ok:

Gordy81 16th Aug 2013 05:58

Well done Neo, awesome news.... good luck!!

AnotherException 18th Aug 2013 12:01

Good job neopowered. Congratulations ^^

Marlow94 19th Aug 2013 07:07

Ive been reading this and other threads for the past month and just decided to make an account haha, so i can communicate with anyone who is going to be on the ADFA flight screening course 7th - 21st September. Cause i'll be meeting you there :D

alec taylor 19th Aug 2013 07:18

FSP September 15-28
 
Hey all,

Very recently got the call from PSA to attend FSP on September 15th-28th.

Just thought I would get my name out there and to see if anybody else on these forums has been offered the same FSP dates.

Cheers, Alec.

Winged Wombat 19th Aug 2013 23:15

Brevity
 
Gentlemen and ladies,

This forum is about answering questions regarding the FSP and ADF pilot applications. It already has some 2500 entries and your self congratulating comments are not helping anyone! Desist and start behaving like future pilots.

Ask intelligent questions and provide valuable guidance for others. That is it!

Nuff said.

WW

Marlow94 20th Aug 2013 08:08

To anyone that has been on the flight screening program before, what is the day to day routine? I am not looking for insider tips and hints, but rather trying to gauge when we finish for the day so to speak, allowing us to study the book as well as maybe continue preparation for the OSB on the last day if this is possible? Thanks.

Winged Wombat 21st Aug 2013 02:02

FSP Routine
 
Marlow,
To the best of my knowledge you'll be flying most days at least once, maybe twice. You will be expected to study in the evenings to get ready for the next days activities. It'll be busy but a good taste of what the real course will be like.

If you still need to prepare for the OSB whilst you're at the FSP then you are NOT ready for the FSP. Remember, Prior Preparation Prevents Pitifully Poor Pilot Performance.:eek:

WW

Marlow94 21st Aug 2013 02:20

Okay that's great, i'm glad we have our own time to read and prepare for the next day just like it would be at BFTS! Going to be such a great test of character.
I completely understand what you mean and i'll take that with me, for the majority of the time FSP is pilot time! :D Hopefully I find a little time among it all towards the end to just consolidate what I shall talk about and how to present myself kind of aspects for the OSB on the last day.

Thanks WW.

alec taylor 21st Aug 2013 07:09

In addition to what winged wombat said I would advise not only studying your next sortie but your next to or three as one might be cancelled due to weather. Furthermore whilst down there you need to build a model aeroplane with the rest of your group which takes a bit of time individually. When not studying however make sure your not being a hermit. Get out there talk to people about their experiences and advise. Not sure on the routine times as im yet to go to flight screening myself, however all this information has come from someone who very recently went through the program with a recommendation.

captainsail 21st Aug 2013 21:50

In regards to the routine of the day, you'll be required to be at BFTS by 0800 and be able to leave at 1600.

ToniAlessandra 21st Aug 2013 22:44

Hey alec_taylor,

Just curious as to how long after your assessment day you got the call to attend Flight Screening? :)

alec taylor 23rd Aug 2013 01:15

I had a few medical things needing to be cleared up but once I was medically cleared it took about 2 weeks to get a call. It comes a lot sooner than you imagine.

Alexie9 23rd Aug 2013 06:35

Hi guys,

Long time reader. I just received a call for a spot on the 28th of September onwards for FSP. Anyone else allocated for this ADFA session?

Excited and packing death at the same time! Any words of wisdom or values of hindsight to share from those who have completed it recently?

Cheers

ToniAlessandra 23rd Aug 2013 23:28

Do you guys know if there is a way to track how your application is going or how competitive you are to other applicants? :)

frappe 24th Aug 2013 07:30

ToniAllssandra,

The only way would be to call DFR and ask them. Are you pre or post flight screening?

Aydo 24th Aug 2013 10:27

WW, acting like future pilots? What makes you think they're not?

ToniAlessandra 24th Aug 2013 11:21

I am pre flight screening, I only recently passed through assessment day.

captainsail 26th Aug 2013 10:25

There is a fitness assessment done at the end of the FSP phase, based on Army standards. It's just to gauge where you're at with your fitness, so if you get an offer you still have to do the pre-enlistment fitness test.

ToniAlessandra 26th Aug 2013 21:18

Ok thanks, just the standard push ups, sit ups and beep test im assuming? For the one completed at flight screening?

captainsail 27th Aug 2013 10:05

Yep, that's all there is to it. Nothing too strenuous ;)

Slezy9 29th Aug 2013 20:28

Winged Wombat,


This forum is about answering questions regarding the FSP and ADF pilot applications. It already has some 2500 entries and your self congratulating comments are not helping anyone! Desist and start behaving like future pilots.
Take a chill pill dude. := It's the internets... If the people applying want to jump online and find others to be happy with then good luck to them.

I would be interested if you could explain what future pilots behave like?

Joker89 1st Sep 2013 07:56

RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)
 
Folks,

In my opinion there was nothing much fun about flight screening back when I did it. Treat it for what it is, a 2 week job interview and be thankful
For the opportunity.

While some could argue that it is a taste of what is to come. Pilots course and the job after are much more enjoyable than fsp, although the same can't be said for OTS and comsurv.

Winged Wombat 2nd Sep 2013 03:15

Slezy9, - "Take a chill pill dude. It's the internets... If the people applying want to jump online and find others to be happy with then good luck to them.
I would be interested if you could explain what future pilots behave like? "


:ugh:Internets?..........your syntax both astounds me and causes me great concern for the future of gramatically correct communications.


Future Pilots?

In my humble airline pilot opinion, pilots do not engage in self congratulating hubris. CAPT of QF 32 a case in point.
They avoid drinking decafinated soy latte's with low carb marshmallows on the side. If they make a contribution to society or their chosen field of venture, then they will generally not seek a pat on the back or surreptitious recognition for a very ordinary achievement such as finding out what format the recruitment tests take or being the number 564th applicant to be given the nod for the next hurdle of pilot selection this year.

They take advice when needed and ask intelligent and appropriate questions once they've made an effort to understand a system or situation themselves. Whingeing rarely, they are most happy talking aircraft and or subjects related to flying and never ever refer to another as "Dude"!

They are generally comfortable with seeking a solution via their own means before engaging anyone else and detest good old mummy-hug-spoon-feeding.

I anticipate that you will be bewildered by the use of the word surreptitious so have included a definition below for your benefit in pronunciation and definition.

sur·rep·ti·tious (sūrhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifp-thttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifshhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifs)
adj. 1. Obtained, done, or made by clandestine or stealthy means.
2. Acting with or marked by stealth.

So, given that this thread is directed at providing said candidates with genuine and credible information to assist them with their preparations for a pilot application, my comments in a previous post stand as a guide to making the most of the information available in this thread and preventing it degenerating into a gab fest of self interest. There is very limited value in filling it with nonsensical 'facebookese" statements which generate little credibility for the writer and add no further value to the thread.

But thank you for your keen interest in my offerings, I am both grateful and humbled by your interest and trust that my reply has clarified for you, my meaning.

WW :ok:

"Nothing worth while was ever gained the easy way"

BravoJulietCharlie 5th Sep 2013 08:55

Avmed
 
Well I passed the assessment day and I had sorted out most of the required paper work for submission to PSA, then today the medical department at DFR called to tell me that (now that they have the report from my Dr.) my file has to now be reviewed by Avmed in Adelaide before I can be nominated for an FSP course.

I've searched the medication I'm currently prescribed online regarding Aviation medical, and all I found indicated that it shouldn't be a problem (it's a very minor condition I might add)

Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? Is it something for me to be worried about? What sort of timeframe can i expect an answer? I am pretty worried about it

josephfeatherweight 5th Sep 2013 11:16

WW - You don't half rate yourself, do you?
A more condescending tone I've not heard...

Winged Wombat 6th Sep 2013 04:24

BJC - I think you're doing all you can at present. If it's AVMED's call, then you're probably just going to have to wait for their answer. Don't be disheartened though, they are in the business of protecting you and the government from things going wrong. Stay upbeat.

JFW - I'm not sure I'd call it condescending. Just wanted to keep the thing on track. Nothing from Sleezy9 and the 'facebookese' seems to have evaporated so I'm hoping I have been successful.:rolleyes:

Very Sneaky 6th Sep 2013 06:50


Originally Posted by BravoJulietCharlie
Well I passed the assessment day and I had sorted out most of the required paper work for submission to PSA, then today the medical department at DFR called to tell me that (now that they have the report from my Dr.) my file has to now be reviewed by Avmed in Adelaide before I can be nominated for an FSP course.

I've searched the medication I'm currently prescribed online regarding Aviation medical, and all I found indicated that it shouldn't be a problem (it's a very minor condition I might add)

Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? Is it something for me to be worried about? What sort of timeframe can i expect an answer? I am pretty worried about it

I'm not sure what condition you have, and I do hope it isn't serious or a barrier to your entry, however I will share with you my experience regarding AVMed and medication. I was given a class 3R (restricted) medical status based partly on the fact that I was experiencing mild reflux and was on medication for it accordingly. Because of this I was required to have an exploratory procedure to fully assess the seriousness of the condition. My understanding from the doctor was that if it was the case that I was required to take medication on an ongoing, indefinite basis, I would be deemed unfit and given a class 4. Fortunately this was not the case, but it would seem that any prescribed medication would have to be temporary and of a "non-recurring" nature. I would also assume that you would be held to the same standard, but having said that I'm obviously not from AVMed so this may not be the whole story in regards to options and rulings.

I hope this helps and that things go well for you!

Cheers

VS

krunkworx 8th Sep 2013 00:26

Hi All,

This thread is an amazing source of information although does digress quite a bit at times. Thanks to all of you who have returned after YOU days, spec testing and FSP/OSBs to report back on what to expect.

I had a query regarding the weight put on previous flying experience. Although I don't have my PPL, I do have some flying hours from my uni degree (aerospace engineering) and have some gliding time booked in the next couple of weeks. I've got my assessment day coming up (assuming I pass spec testing!) and am a little worried that I may get drilled for not having more demonstrated flying experience for someone of my age (26).

Can anyone comment on their experience through the process with little flying experience?

Very Sneaky 8th Sep 2013 11:07


Originally Posted by krunkworx
Hi All,

This thread is an amazing source of information although does digress quite a bit at times. Thanks to all of you who have returned after YOU days, spec testing and FSP/OSBs to report back on what to expect.

I had a query regarding the weight put on previous flying experience. Although I don't have my PPL, I do have some flying hours from my uni degree (aerospace engineering) and have some gliding time booked in the next couple of weeks. I've got my assessment day coming up (assuming I pass spec testing!) and am a little worried that I may get drilled for not having more demonstrated flying experience for someone of my age (26).

Can anyone comment on their experience through the process with little flying experience?

Flight experience, even if it's only a little, speaks loads towards motivation to fly, and I would bet that you'll get asked about it in your OSB. There was one bloke on my course who had no experience, and his comments were that he wished he had at least some. He said he found it difficult to adapt to the air and get used to/be confident in the aircraft. Everyone is different however; there have been numerous people who have been successful with no flight time, but I think the general recommendation (at least in my experience) is that you get some hours before you go up. A recommendation from personal experience is don't stagger your lessons. Do them all in one go and apply yourself to learn everything you need to for those flights. I found that waiting between flights meant that I was rusty and had to relearn a lot of material that I'd already covered.

Having said this, students are split up into basic, intermediate and advanced categories based on the hours they have and the recency of those hours (<10 hours for the basic course). The syllabus of each of these is progressively more involved and there are fewer flights in the intermediate and advanced categories, which I would assume is supposed to cater to different levels of experience.


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