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wazza21 20th Mar 2016 01:00

Yeah that's a better explanation! As I've said in still waiting for FS so thanks for clarifying.

FlyLowFlySlow 20th Mar 2016 05:22

Wazza, give FSP a call and confirm that they have your file (if they don't, you could be waiting a while for that call). The girls at FSP are very helpful and should be able to give you an idea of where you are sitting on the list.

Hope this helps.

FLFS

itabruce 20th Mar 2016 05:55

FlyingSoon

thanks for that clarification, really appreciated.

Now what I guess it is the real question: how put the preferences in a way that it doesn't close any door?
My heart is telling me go for RAAF but my age is saying play it "safe"... (not that it is safe but at least Army and Navy seem to be a fraction easier than RAAF)..

Also keeping the same preference would disqualify me for the other services in case I won't get it?

Brenno17 20th Mar 2016 08:00

Been following this thread for the past 2 years....so much info.
So, I'm currently in the process of hopefully becoming a Navy Pilot via ADFA.
I completed my Assesment day about 2 months and have been told that my file has been sent down to FSP in Tamworth.
How do I get hold of FSP to find out if they have my file or not?

Also...has anyone received a call about FSP in April...?


P.s. Thanks in advance to everyone for contributing to this forum.

wazza21 20th Mar 2016 09:27

Thanks FLFS for you help, i'll give them a call tomorrow and check my position and make sure they've got my file. (surely recruiting can't be that bad!?)

Brenno17, Sounds like we're in the same boat. hopefully the ball starts rolling for both of us soon! are you applying for ADFA or DEO?

MrKhargify 20th Mar 2016 22:15

Wazza, last year my file was sent to Tamworth at the end of February and I only got the call for FSP at the end of August. I wouldn't be too concerned, maybe give your local DFR a call to make sure they sent it.

wazza21 21st Mar 2016 01:04

Brenno17, awesome, i'm applying for DEO. the number is 02 6760 7677, rang them this morning and seemed very helpful and said they would get back to me this arvo with any information. hope that helps

MrKhargify, Wow that's a pretty big wait! spoke to DFR last month to get an update and they said my file had been sent away, and i would hopefully here something early march...
p.s how did you go at FSP?

FlyingSoon 21st Mar 2016 11:14

Bruce,

No problem :)

To not close any doors my advice is preference RAAF Pilot at DFR and then when you get the Flight Screening paperwork aircrew service preference form, preference all three as "Most Preferred" on the 3 box form or "5 out of 5" for the 5 box form.

Preferencing more than one job at DFR will make it harder for you to get through Assessment Day considering you can just change your preferences at FSP.

For example on my Flight Screening guys only preferenced RAAF pilot at DFR and ended up getting offers for Army and Navy afterwards anyway as well as RAAF offers.

Good luck,
fs

ARJM 21st Mar 2016 23:44

Hey guys,

I recently completed my additional testing and dfr has contacted me with dates for assessment day. I had to tell them that I wanted to put it off as I'm currently in my last year of uni, so I have a fairly big work load plus I also have work commitments and I want to have some time before the day to do some study and prepare myself. Was just wondering if any of you have an idea of how dfr look at this? Would they prefer me to put off my civilian commitments? Cheers.

MrKhargify 21st Mar 2016 23:59

It definitely was a long wait, and I will admit I was getting quite worried. I got through flight screening with a high recommendation and I'm now a first year at ADFA. I do think it's a bit different for ADFA, but I don't think the time it takes to get on course adversely affects your application. As long as you get on course, you have equal opportunity. For example, out of the 24 people from 3 courses I met, I'm at ADFA with 8 of them.

Also, I would like to pass on some advice, even if it's been said before.
  1. Study hard, and study effectively. The big points here are to ensure you remember the numbers and practice the actions. This will improve your flying significantly and will let you focus on actually maneuvering the aircraft, instead of what attitude you're supposed to be at.
  2. If you stuff up one flight, don't worry. In my last flight (assessment) I flew the worst I've ever flown. They commented on it in the OSB, but as long as you recognise it and can answer why you ****** it, you're all good. Not everyone can be perfect all the time.
  3. Always have a positive attitude and look like you're always trying to improve. Ask questions if you're unsure.
  4. Talk to people at BFTS and ask questions. I learnt so much from talking to one of the current super hornet pilots who's instructing there.
  5. Don't point in the cockpit :=
  6. Enjoy it. It's a fantastic 2 weeks.

If you've got any questions, let me know.

FlyingSoon 22nd Mar 2016 11:42

Khargify makes a lot of good points. I just want to emphasise that you should be positive and enjoying yourself at all times, after all this is a sample of the life you are going to live if successful! Also, I spent a lot of time socialising with the BFTS guys. A lot of advice says here to not touch the board games in the common room but I found playing with the padre and the BFTS students offers a great talking point and environment to ask a lot of questions. In my OSB interview they commented on my depth of knowledge and asked how I knew so much.

One thing I want to add is make friends with your coursemates. These guys are going to potentially be part of your class at training schools and will be your colleagues in the future. Start off well with them and support each other. It is not a competition between you and them, itis a competition between you and the standard to get recommended.

alec taylor 25th Mar 2016 13:02

Hi all. Just wondering if anyone has been given a letter of offer and afterwards, designated class 4.

FlyingSoon 26th Mar 2016 07:15

Hi alec taylor,

I got a medical downgrade after I got my LOO. Later got reupgraded and am now in the job. PM me if you need any help.

Best,
fs

itabruce 27th Mar 2016 08:46


Originally Posted by FlyingSoon (Post 9317627)
Bruce,

No problem :)

To not close any doors my advice is preference RAAF Pilot at DFR and then when you get the Flight Screening paperwork aircrew service preference form, preference all three as "Most Preferred" on the 3 box form or "5 out of 5" for the 5 box form.

Preferencing more than one job at DFR will make it harder for you to get through Assessment Day considering you can just change your preferences at FSP.

For example on my Flight Screening guys only preferenced RAAF pilot at DFR and ended up getting offers for Army and Navy afterwards anyway as well as RAAF offers.

Good luck,
fs

Thanks for this.
My only "fear" in doing as you suggest is that because I'm over 30 I won't get to assessment day because potentially too old for RAAF. In that case I wouldn't even get the chance to prefer them all at the flight screening...

FlyingSoon 27th Mar 2016 14:29

Getting to Assessment Day is not the hard part, it's getting through the Assessment Day itself. They'll tell you if you aren't competitive early on in the piece based on age. YOU Session is just to see what kind of person you are and set you in the right direction with regards to testing and giving you a realistic selection of jobs to apply for.

machzero 30th Mar 2016 00:49

Hey Brenno,

Congratulations mate, you must be absolutely stoked.

When did your file get sent off to flight screening? Mine is being sent today so it's all about the waiting game now I guess !

All the best mate and congrats again,

machzero

djmp92 1st Apr 2016 09:31

Hey guys! First time poster long time lurker on this thread! There's some fantastic information on here.

Currently booked in for Additional Testing on this Monday. Been studying non-stop so I'm hoping I'll do well.

With regards to the medicals I'm a little worried. I went to hospital either last year because of a sore chest and was worried it was a heart issue. Doctor diagnosed it as muscle soreness since there was nothing wrong with my heart. Will DFR look down on this whole event? Keep hearing horror stories regarding medicals so I'm just looking for some clarification.

FlyingSoon 3rd Apr 2016 08:13

hey djmp,

As someone who has had lots of fun with medical, I can tell you that if you are prepared with all the relevant documentation for when they ask you about it you will be fine. If you're in for the Additional Testing, that means you've gone through the YOU session medical. If you raised this then and they didn't make a fuss it means it shouldn't be such a huge issue come Assessment Day.

Make sure to get all the relevant reports for any xrays or imaging performed. Make an appointment to see your specialist if you saw one for a few months away if your referral is valid so you can go and get a report if they ask for it. If they don't ask just cancel the appointment.

The reason everyone has headaches with medical is they go in expecting to be "good to go" and next minute they are unprepared and made Class 3 or 4. Depending on who you see be prepared to have to get all these details and get a letter from a specialist to avoid this categorisation. Getting a 3 or 4 isn't the end of the world however. You can still be classed fit for FSP while not Class 1.

Good luck with the additional testing and if you have any more questions fire away.

djmp92 4th Apr 2016 09:10

Thanks FS!

Yeah I brought everything up with the nurse and she just jotted it down on the computer. Only elaborated on the date and the diagnosis.

Additional testing went well so I'm through to the next stage.

Yes I was thinking of gathering all the relevant reports. Reading about all the medicals made me want to be pretty prepared for them. Last thing I want is waiting months because paperwork I sent in hasn't reached them or something silly. Better to just have it there and then on the day like you said.

One question - if you don't produce the paperwork does that render you as a Class 3 or 4 until you provide it? And therefore fit for Class 1 FSP?

FlyingSoon 5th Apr 2016 05:21

Congratulations mate, start studying now for your chosen roles. Don't forget to do a bit of research into the other services as well to round out your knowledge for OSB and Assessment Day

Not producing paperwork will make you a 2E or 2D or something similar (temporarily unfit pending waiver or paperwork), but sometimes if you can't explain something as serious as chest pains then they will shoot you down before you even get a chance!

There's a separate medical sheet they fill out for aircrew applicants during your Assessment Day re fitness for FSP, so it is independent of your "DFR Classification". There's a big box that says "FIT FOR FSP" down the bottom you need to get a tick in!

I missed my first eligible intake because I didn't have paperwork prepared which is why I strongly advocate everyone to cover themselves.

Best,
fs


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