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Gainesy 7th Apr 2008 09:19

Fg Off Wales' Wings
 
So, when he gets his wings this week, I assume that they will be RAF type, but when he then cross dresses to the RN will he wear RN wings on sleeve and subsequently AAC type wings if/when he reverts to the Army? Or does he stick with the RAF wings as presented?

(Not usually bothered by uniform triv but got a beer bet on this.)

beerdrinker 7th Apr 2008 09:26

Check what his father does. RAF wings on RAF uniform, RN wings on RN uniform and AAC wings on Army uniform

dallas 7th Apr 2008 10:32

And the whole lot in the same time it takes me to do an out-of-area. Either this guy's good or the rest of our lot have been dragging it out.

:E

Early Stacker 7th Apr 2008 10:38

I would have thought that since he holds an Army Commission he should wear Army wings - or am I over simplifying things (again!)

Gridnorth 7th Apr 2008 10:46

Alright if you have the power to make the rules up. I don't see how flying a Grob qualifies him on a Rotary for the Army or a Jet for the Navy.
From what I heard (and I hope someone can confirm/deny this) his Father was asthmatic and therefore does not qualify for a medical anyway.:=

airborne_artist 7th Apr 2008 10:46

ES - for Christ's sake man - stop using your brain. You are not being paid to think ;)

Bob Viking 7th Apr 2008 11:00

Well done Gridnorth!
 
I wondered how long it would take for someone to squinny about how unfair it all is!
THEY'RE THE FUTURE KINGS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
They (I mean Charles and William here!) can do what the hell they like!
Besides, do you honestly think they'll be using their Wings in an Operational Theatre?!
I'm willing to bet Prince Andrew did rather more than a famil' package before flying off to the South Atlantic!
BV:rolleyes:

blue monday 7th Apr 2008 11:02

His farther has wings but still managed to crash a BAe 146 a few yrs back, up in Scotland somewhere if remember rightly, allegedly when he realised he was cocking up he immediately said 'you have control' to the captain.

Bob Viking 7th Apr 2008 11:06

Blue Monday
 
Really?!
I'd never heard that story!
BV:E

dakkg651 7th Apr 2008 11:09

Gridnorth.

It wasn't only the Tutor. He was trained on the Tucano then the Squirrel.

Did rather well by all accounts.

blue monday 7th Apr 2008 11:43

BV
 
it was ZE700 1994, heres a link to it:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=271099

I was based at Northolt 6 or 7 years ago so got he full 'unofficial' story.

Chicken Leg 7th Apr 2008 12:27

Blue Monday

Erm, I think that BV might have been................................tch, forget it! :ugh:

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 7th Apr 2008 12:33


Originally Posted by Bob Viking

I wondered how long it would take for someone to squinny about how unfair it all is.

You're not from Pompey/Turktown by any chance? Anyway, I agree totally with you. Whenever this topic crops up, out come the usual suspects like Pavlov and his bloody dogs. At least some are sufficiently well balanced as to have chips on both shoulders, though.

blue monday 7th Apr 2008 13:25

Doh :ugh: I was a little slow on the uptake there, was rushing so didn't note the sarcasm!

Gainesy 7th Apr 2008 14:23

Did he also solo on the Tucano and Squirrel? Or just a famil type course?

nunquamparatus 7th Apr 2008 20:05

HRH Will
 
Frankly, for what Harry and William have had to put up with in the last 10 years I think they should be entitled to as many badges as they can squeeze onto an arm. Perhaps we could send them on the Royal Marines Sniper Course......not that the sniper badge wouldn't look good on the uniform but it would be thoroughly heartening to see a few paparazzi slotted within 500 metres of Clarence House. Must check the Game Licence and see if it lists 'Gits with Cameras'..............

Looking forward to seeing HRH Prince William at sea in a mighty grey war canoe (if we have any left) - preferably on Trafalgar Night or Tarantino night. Then he can learn all about 'responsible drinking'. :E

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 7th Apr 2008 20:12

Is Tarantino Night a jolly ashore to the Flicks?

I've always preferred Taranto Night.

:)

nunquamparatus 7th Apr 2008 20:27

Derring-do.........sort of
 
Ah, Taranto night. When the brave (read 'suicidal') pilots from the Fleet Air Arm took off in their trusty buckets of pooh (Swordfish) and laid waste to the Italian Fleet (!!??) at Taranto. Presumably the Italians, like every other matelot in their own home port, were in town, on the lash, trying to square away anything in a skirt - thus making the job of the trusty WAFUs that much easier. A frankly feeble excuse for a knees-up but who needs excuses. Made all the more exciting (at Yeovilton) by wondering which part of the wardroom Schwab would try to blow up - back int he days when you were allowed to do that sort of thing in the mess (ie, have character):ok:

A2QFI 7th Apr 2008 21:17

"Prince Charles was not blamed because, despite holding the RAF rank of group captain, he was regarded as a passenger who was invited to fly the aircraft. The inquiry can pass judgment on the crew.

More » It was not in dispute, however, that the Prince was at the controls of the BAe 146 when it landed awkwardly and too fast in high winds on the Isle of Islay last June, slewed off the Port Ellen runway and came to a halt with its nose buried in mud. Six crew and five passengers were on board but no one was injured.

The RAF report into the accident, released in the House of Commons yesterday, concluded the jet was flying 32 knots (40mph) too fast when it crossed the runway threshold. Only 509m (557yds) of the 1,245m-long (1,362yd) strip remained when all the aircraft's wheels touched down, causing a tyre to burst and another to deflate.

The captain, Squadron Leader Graham Laurie, was negligent "in the final stages of the flight". Although he still flies with No. 2 Royal Squadron, he may no longer act as an instructing or supervising pilot.

ninja-lewis 7th Apr 2008 21:27

Frankly, for what Harry and William have had to put up with in the last 10 years I think they should be entitled to as many badges as they can squeeze onto an arm. Perhaps we could send them on the Royal Marines Sniper Course......not that the sniper badge wouldn't look good on the uniform but it would be thoroughly heartening to see a few paparazzi slotted within 500 metres of Clarence House. Must check the Game Licence and see if it lists 'Gits with Cameras'..............

After today's verdict that the paparazzi were a contributory factor in their mother's death, surely there's a case for self defence? :hmm:

robin 7th Apr 2008 21:44


The captain, Squadron Leader Graham Laurie, was negligent "in the final stages of the flight". Although he still flies with No. 2 Royal Squadron, he may no longer act as an instructing or supervising pilot.
And, for what its worth, HRH has given up on the controls since then....

14greens 8th Apr 2008 16:29

correct me if i am wrong but did the author of this thread accuse the future boss of being a cross dresser!!!!!?

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 8th Apr 2008 17:57

Yes; but not that way.

:eek:

Warmtoast 8th Apr 2008 20:09


Fg Off Wales' Wings
So, when he gets his wings this week, I assume that they will be RAF type, but when he then cross dresses to the RN will he wear RN wings on sleeve and subsequently AAC type wings if/when he reverts to the Army? Or does he stick with the RAF wings as presented?
Three weeks after his Grandpa got his wings he was promoted as this press item said at the time;


Duke of Edinburgh’s R.A.F. Commission
On January 15th [1953] the Air Ministry announced that Her Majesty the Queen had been graciously pleased to appoint H.R.H. the Duke of Edinburgh to a commission in the Royal Air Force, in the rank of Marshal of the Royal Air Force, with effect from that date. Simultaneous announcements by the Admiralty and War Office gave news, respectively, of the Duke’s promotion to ranks of Admiral of the Fleet (he is already a commander in the Royal Navy) and of Field Marshal.
The Duke, who recently succeeded the late King as Air Commodore-in-Chief of the Air Training Corps, now becomes the third member of the Royal Family to have held the highest rank in the R.A.F. King George V did not hold the rank as such, but assumed the title of Chief of the Royal Air Force. The Duke of Windsor was appointed a Marshal of the Royal Air Force on his accession in 1936 and has retained that rank since his abdication, and the late King George VI also assumed the rank on his accession. Both the Duke of Windsor and King George VI learned to fly, the former being taught by A. Cdre. Sir Edward Fielden and the latter by Air Chief Marshal Sir Alec Coryton.
Are the MOD planning to have a PR coup like Wills' Grandpa had way back in 1953 when he was snapped flying his Harvard over Windsor Castle?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ghSolo1953.jpg

Wills flying his Grob solo over Windsor Castle would probably make the tabloids - ATC restrictions permitting of course.

2close 8th Apr 2008 20:21


Wills flying his Grob solo over Windsor Castle would probably make the tabloids - ATC restrictions permitting of course.
SVFR in the London CTR. Not a problem. Get the camera out! :)

Maple 01 8th Apr 2008 21:08

"I can see my house from here......."

Orson 8th Apr 2008 22:12

Course......not that the sniper badge wouldn't look good on the uniform but it would be thoroughly heartening to see a few paparazzi slotted within 500 metres of Clarence House. Must check the Game Licence and see if it lists 'Gits with Cameras'..............


Think they're known as vermin - no season on them.

wasaspacecadet 9th Apr 2008 10:11

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1018381.ece

SpaceCadet

Spanish Waltzer 9th Apr 2008 12:15

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1018381.ece


Wills, 25, went on a two-hour mission co-piloting the bright yellow Sea King chopper – widely regarded by the RAF as the most difficult and dangerous to fly.
:confused:

Really???? Please elaborate crab :ok:

Spacer 9th Apr 2008 12:38

No, they are safe as old houses. Well, the ones without asbestos....

ProfessionalStudent 9th Apr 2008 15:37


... widely regarded by the RAF as the most difficult and dangerous to fly.
Well, that's what you get with a cockpit full of training risks...

Retires and takes cover...:E

diginagain 9th Apr 2008 15:46


Originally Posted by Maple01
"I can see my house from here......."

Surely Maple, you mean "One can see one's house from here......"

Orson 9th Apr 2008 16:40

Surely "One can see one of one's houses from here"?

Romeo Oscar Golf 9th Apr 2008 18:27

Sorry, couldn't resist it!
Getting this piccy of "my house" did give a very fast track to the Staish's Office (hats on).
It is an untouched F95 print taken on a "bad weather" low level circuit and my wife, bless her, was on the patio thinking " What the ......", (bottom left)
Go on then Fg Off Wales- beat that!.:E

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/Home1969.jpg

muttywhitedog 9th Apr 2008 19:28

I'm wondering if anyone is ever going to Move & Track him on JPA. After the Harry announcement I had a quick scan at where William was and according to JPA he'd done all his flying training from some barracks in London!

A2QFI 9th Apr 2008 19:55

Which Base?
 
ROG. Definitely Germany, by style of houses, but which base? Gutersloh?

richatom 9th Apr 2008 20:36

Definitely not Germany, judging by the side of the road on which the cars are parked (unless ROG is being devious and has reversed the image!).

Nevertheless, it is amazing how military housing always looks so grim, wherever it may be.

Maybe the military would have less retention problems if they made their housing less parade-ground and more homely by encouraging some vegetation...

Romeo Oscar Golf 9th Apr 2008 20:53

40 years on, or so, and I'm still consumed with guilt.;) Let's hope the young Prince never shows such lack of discipline.
No not Gut, and no photographic tricks- I'm not that smart.
Agreed, they do look grim, but compared to most OMQ's of the time they were pretty good to live in.

Unscorable 10th Apr 2008 06:20

Laarbruch, possibly?

A2QFI 10th Apr 2008 06:51

Good call Riacatom! However, no quarters like that were ever built in UK and it is either a one way street (not likely) or the photo has been inadvertently been reversed. T be fair the houses shoen are slightly staggered and there is a lot of vegetation around! They were very good to live in; very solid construction and a useable cellar and loft


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