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gar170 8th Mar 2008 17:33

It could be worse we may of ended up having to listen to Stuart Barnes.

14greens 8th Mar 2008 17:51

Brian Moore is from Halifax actually! Find it surprising that he should have a go though especially the amount of free beer he got when he came to 216! Then again was only a kick and clap game, gave him a good hour of chest poking why he did not try playing real rugby

PPRuNe Pop 8th Mar 2008 18:05

I had the unfortunate experience of this idiot coming to sit on a table next to mine in a restaurant alomgside the river at Barnes.

From the moment he sat down it was obvious he was going to be an arrogant prat prepared to raise hell if things didn't suit him - never mind anyone else and so it turned out.

I thanked him for his lousy manners as I left. :eek:

Stitchbitch 8th Mar 2008 18:21

To Quote Avalon..."I've often thought those fly-pasts are pointless because most people in the stadium can't see them anyway or if they do its very very brief."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUIO1...eature=related

I agree that this one was a little better....:E

fatobs 8th Mar 2008 18:37

unfortunately I missed out on Brian Moores comment.. Why because I happen to be north of the border and had to put up with the most biased commentry I have ever heard from david Sole and some other chap I can't remember and thats coming from someone who is as scottish as he is english!!!!

Shack37 8th Mar 2008 20:10

FATOBS
I heard Brian Moore's comment and listened to an biassed commentary on the English broadcast for a while before retuning to BBC Scotland where the commentary was less so.

Il Duce 8th Mar 2008 22:09

I don't know why the BBC bother with him; he's a misery from the start of his commentary until the very end - today's comment about the F3s is, sadly, typical. More often than not these days I find myself reducing the volume on my TV during football and rugby matches because the majority of the commentary is an irritation.

bombedup6 8th Mar 2008 23:05

Brian Moore's commentary and tone had me really irritated by the end of the game. But as for the fly-past he was bang on the money. Ridiculous. If you're going to be late don't bother at all. A couple of planes flying over Murrayfield at the start of a rugby game adds absolutely nothing to it - I certainly didn't tune in for an RAF flypast - and gets increasingly negative the longer people have to wait for it.

What a waste of taxpayer's money!!!

Add that to the station commander of Wittering chickening out on uniforms rather than face up to a few yobs in Peterborough and this has not been the best few days of PR for the RAF

Al R 8th Mar 2008 23:39


PPRuNE Pop said: I had the unfortunate experience of this idiot coming to sit on a table next to mine in a restaurant alomgside the river at Barnes.

From the moment he sat down it was obvious he was going to be an arrogant prat prepared to raise hell if things didn't suit him - never mind anyone else and so it turned out.

I thanked him for his lousy manners as I left. :eek:
When you thanked him Cool Mod, did he reply?

The reason that I ask is that I'm sure you'd agree that its the height of bad manners and poor service to be asked something reasonable and to then ignore the questioner.

Phochs3 9th Mar 2008 09:28

Brian Moore always comes across as a negative, biased idiot in his commentary. I am amazed the BBC have kept him on for as long as they have!

As for the F3s, good work and good PR for the RAF.

NutherA2 9th Mar 2008 10:09

Brian Moore’s :} comment was (typically) well out of line; the wait for the FJs’ appearance was noticeably shorter than the time the English team were made to stand in the rain before the Scots XV decided to turn up.

Another thought, was the ETA for the F3s’ flyby messed about by the late finish of the Dublin game, where the timing went by the board completely. The “glad handing” of the teams & officials by Mary McAleese http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/...ons/icon13.gif and the performance of both Irish anthems delayed kick-off by a little over 10 minutes :ugh:.

Arthur's Wizard 9th Mar 2008 11:07

Aw come on guys, stop being so precious!

A2QFI 9th Mar 2008 11:10

AW - try again in English!

Maufe 9th Mar 2008 11:28


Originally Posted by sandbetweenthetoes (Post 3964906)
The Royal Air Force are stretched beyond belief, all of the servicemen who have had to give up their weekend to make that flypast possible will be utterley disgusted by this comment, how do I know? because both my wife and I are in the RAF and know exactly how many, and how long the Sqn lads were stood in the rain carrying out pre-flight checks, upon the return of the aircraft they will need to be serviced, extra work that we dont need, if its not welcome that is!

Sorry your efforts wern't appreciated enough Sandy, but in all honesty your flypast was just a (late) irrelevent 3 second sideshow at a big rugby match so don't slag off BM for having the guts to state what many people thought.

And don't anyone take this as me being disrespectful to the hard work of any branch of the services.

Tempsford 9th Mar 2008 11:30

When it was annouced by the commentary team for the match that a flypast would take place, the camera panned to the area where the the aicraft were due to approach, you could see them in the distance, but no one commented that they could see them inbound. The camera then panned back to the pitch and as the aircraft flew overhead, the cameras briefly picked them up overhead the stadium. Then we had the typical 'off the cuff', 'didn't engage brain before opening mouth' comment.

My point is that the impression given by the BBC was that the flypast was an inconvenience getting in the way of the match rather than building it up to be a spectacle that we do not see a lot of and when it does happen, it is much appreciated. The production/presentation team for the BBC handled the flypast badly.

With the recent situation in Peterborough, the timing of the comments made was poor and due to the emotion that the Peterborough situation has stirred up, was offensive to many. He should apologise for his comments and then we should all move on.

Temps

serf 9th Mar 2008 11:54

I missed the game yesterday, what was the score?

r2_unit 9th Mar 2008 12:11

Late???
 
I can 'reveal' with reasonable confidence that the F3s arrived at the requested time to the second.

r2

Slotback 9th Mar 2008 12:19

Amazing what tripe people can speak. Has anyone actually asked to see if the flypast was late or if the other pre-match events finished early? Probably not, it's easier to live off prejudice and arrogant ignorance, may be that is why there is an image problem with the general public.

Most of the above comments are as well thought out and useful as noBrain Moore's. I sure that given the choice people wouldn't choose to come in to work on an extra day to do a job that was unappreciated. Not doing the flypast would be easy.

I thought we didn't pander to the purile and ignorant comments of oafs - but then I read that we have given in to a small insignificant minority in Petersbourgh.

The RAF is 90 this year let's be pride and be SEEN to be pride of what we do. We are after all the best at it.

bombedup6 9th Mar 2008 12:25

r2

Oh, I see, arrived on time "to the second." Nothing wrong with Irrelevant Aircraft and their planning. Its all you millions of rugby fans who are the problem.

The basic problem with the RAF is that it has lost touch with the general public and can now only see itself from its own perspective (ergo the Wittering boss who sees her first priority as 'protecting her people" rather than 'engaging with the enemy' - the Peterborough yobs.)

gar170 9th Mar 2008 12:31


I missed the game yesterday, what was the score?
Were not falling for that one:=.


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