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GPMG 4th Mar 2008 14:40

Argggghhh you said the G word, run to the nearest hill and back, go.

No I'm afraid that was a bit before my time, I think my brother was on a UN tour around that tim though (may have been earlier).

airborne_artist 4th Mar 2008 14:50


these were 'just' Cdo, Royal Engineers
The 59 (Commando) Sqn and 9 (Para) Sqn guys are bright, capable and totally solid under pressure. Plenty of them find their way to Hereford.

There is however a time and a place for everything, and a public bar that has not been cleared in advance is not the location.

Al R 4th Mar 2008 14:55

.. agreed, which was why I put 'just' in those little dash type things, the name for which escapes me right now because my head is exploding. This was a clash of cultures as much as anything. And weak bladders obviously.

Gimpy, what if you hear the word 'grenade' or.. 'bullets'?

AGHHHHH.. I've said it. Now I've got to leapord crawl in any given direction now, for 30 seconds and then upppppp, or I'll never forgive myself..

Pops556 4th Mar 2008 15:34

"Naked Bar" strikes as the sort of Bonhomie that could only be found and tolerated within a tightly-knit group or by folk associated with such groups (for example the pubs and bars close by their normal training and stomping grounds?)

If these guys need to let some steam off then a certain degree of tolerance and understanding of the values, culture, ethos and 'norms' are required...and perhaps some advance notice!

That said, the need to express group cohesion and scent mark via a Bacchanalian 'golden shower' crosses the line. Whatever happened to the 'Duty Adult' system? I still insist on it with my lot when they get together...

Pontius Navigator 4th Mar 2008 15:50

AIDU you were indeed right, I make it 6 so far.:}

MightyGem 4th Mar 2008 16:17


The 59 (Commando) Sqn and 9 (Para) Sqn guys are bright, capable and totally solid under pressure. Plenty of them find their way to Hereford.
Yeah, but I wouldn't take many home to meet my mum. And I'm an ex sapper.

sittingstress 4th Mar 2008 17:53

GPMG-you shy from the term Gimpy, how about:

POUCHES pronounced correctly and not POOCHES!

Double away to the common and crawl through the gorse.

Regards

ss

Pontius Navigator 4th Mar 2008 20:01


Originally Posted by airborne_artist (Post 3955581)
a public bar that has not been cleared in advance is not the location.

Interesting point. I think (I can't remember :}) that it is not unknown for the owner/bar staff to be asked or warned and to give a warning to customers.

Equally I might recall the wry smile and the 'go ahead' we are unshockable bit.

But don't hold me to it, I have a notoriously fragile memory as proven that I can never remember what I said to Mrs PN 30 years ago, but she can.

RAFEmployee 4th Mar 2008 20:21

Anyone ever read "Amongst the marines" by Steven Preece?

Speaks about the pubs in Norway and how the marines always had problems with the locals.

AIDU 4th Mar 2008 21:29

Of course you wouldn't see the RAF Rock apes fighting in a pub now would you.


Paras v RAF in punch-up

By TOM NEWTON DUNN
Defence Editor


A BRAND new special forces unit has fought its first battle — against EACH OTHER.

An elite tri-service group of Marines, Paras and RAF soldiers is ready for action to back up SAS squadrons on global missions, it was announced yesterday.

But the new Special Forces Support Group, has already tasted its OWN blood during a mass brawl in a nightclub.
Cops were called to separate up to 60 troops slugging it out in a cap badge rivalry punch-up which left many sporting black eyes and cuts.

A source said: “It was the Para boys versus the RAF — and the Paras won about 30-nil. They filled the guys in.”

The fight in Dover, Kent, involved crack soldiers individually hand-picked for their expertise who are meant to be above squaddie punch-ups.

The row began in a pub after RAF Regiment members bragged about how they beat the Royal Marines section of the unit in a tactics test.

The Paras came to the Marines’ defence and ended with both groups squaring up to each other in a back room of nightclub Studio 1.

The source added: “It serves them right for blabbing their mouths off over how good they thought they were, and they won’t be doing it again in a hurry.

“This sort of thing is only to be expected when you put so many blokes who are the best at what they do together in a unit like this. Everyone is used to being the king of the castle so it is inevitable there will be a clash of egos. Hopefully things will now settle down so everyone can get on with the day job.”

Clubber Jay Mackey, 18, said:“Loads of girls got involved in the fight, including my friend who was punched in the face and got a black eye.

A BRAND new special forces unit
Special needs more like.


RAF soldiers
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha They may wear combats to work but you could teach CCS just as well in blues.

I particularly like the last bit.


Clubber Jay Mackey, 18, said“Loads of girls got involved in the fight
That was the rock apes mate.;)



“It was the Para boys versus the RAF — and the Paras won about 30-nil. They filled the guys in.”
I refer you to the quote above reference a bunch of girls.

glad rag 4th Mar 2008 21:39

Sure everthing you read is true.....................:ugh:

knowitall 4th Mar 2008 21:40

"and the Paras won about 30-nil"


wow, a para that can count!

whatever next

AIDU 4th Mar 2008 21:40

It's true it was in the Sun.:ok:

Talking Radalt 5th Mar 2008 21:38


Speaks about the pubs in Norway and how the marines always had problems with the locals.
Sure you don't mean "a problem" with the locals? (which is ever so slightly different) :confused:

Solid Rust Twotter 6th Mar 2008 06:18

Probably a good thing it wasn't 3 Para Mortars or the Foreign Legion Naked Ballroom Display Team then....

StevenPreece 6th Mar 2008 07:46

Humour
 
I think the Noggies just lack a sense of humour. I recall one night after a good sesh, when I went back to a noggie gronks grot and wandered around the house in the middle of the night looking for the toilet. I thought I'd found it in the dark, but then realised that the Noggie gronk was shouting at me because I was swamping on her.:ooh:

No sense of humour those noggie birds!!:)

Cheers

Steve

Ewan Whosearmy 6th Mar 2008 07:57


The public should just leave them alone as some times the steam needs to come out or it will burst through in other ways!
Are you serious?

These men go into a bar in a country where they are guests, strip naked, harass the women and then piss on each other, and now it's the locals' fault for being over sensitive?! YGBFSM.

If they want people to leave them alone, then they shouldn't act like complete cocks in front of the public.

Ewan Whosearmy 6th Mar 2008 08:02


I think the Noggies just lack a sense of humour. I recall one night after a good sesh, when I went back to a noggie gronks grot and wandered around the house in the middle of the night looking for the toilet. I thought I'd found it in the dark, but then realised that the Noggie gronk was shouting at me because I was swamping on her.
OK, that completely puts into perspective your previous comments about it being the locals' fault.

Clearly, in your little world, pissing on someone or getting pissed on by someone is funny.

GobonaStick 6th Mar 2008 08:23

Guess we'll be off their Christmas Tree list this year. :=

Chippie Chappie 6th Mar 2008 09:46

I'm not military so please excuse me if I'm off the mark but shouldn't this be handled "in house". Maybe the punishment of not being able to wear their RM Commando berets for a month until they learn how to not embarrass it? Surely pride of the regiment not only experienced during trouping of the colour?

(hard hat on)

Chips


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