I take it this has nothing to do with the new standards of 'markmanship' that I hear are now part of CCS.

CAS showing he is up to the mark, and 'anything I can do....'. I can't really complain about leading from the front I suppose - the sign of a good leader they say.

I've got a good idea for future recruitment. Let's get people off the high street and put them through infantrymen training. Keep the really fit guys and marksmen and weed out all the rest. Then give those that are left apptitude tests to decide what they will become, aircrew, ground trade, etc.

See most of you on the range at remedial pistol shooting!

No glasses? They make you wear glasses on the ranges over here.


Plus aren't you supposed to hold the gun with the handley bit horizontal?

Oh god, not another new initiative! How about flying aircraft? Can we launch that as an initiative?

Is it a criminal offence to want to shoot you, AIDU?


Flipflopman

Maple01, yes, you're right!

I never trusted the new-fangled idea of putting the bullets in the other end. Ramrod and ball down the muzzle, that's the way!!

But just think how his family would feel, it isn't very nice to be threatened with being shot etc etc......

And so went the rest of the PM from AIDU :rolleyes:


Flipflopman

Just amazed torpy managed to talk about something other than the typhoon!:}
Now he can talk about FJ's and shooting - cant wait for the next station visit:ugh:

I must say I'm always intrigued by the follow line that I hear at CCS / in the Crewroom / in the cruise.....

"The PPK is sh!t. You'd be better off throwing the thing at them !"

And I see it posted here too.

I'd love to test that hypothesis out one day. Shoot someone in one leg and then throw the gun at the other, see which one hurts / inflicts more injuries. Can't see it being the throwing option myself, but it seems that there are a lot more smarter people out there than I is that think it will, so maybe I'll be shocked ......;)

I'm afraid I have nothing to say about Torpy and the shooting incase you're hoping for an on-topic post. Sorry.

Seem to remember reading in Tornado Down that one of their PPKs failed to fire when the bad guys tried it?
Hope they are both doing well and Iraq is a distant memory. They showed me round a jet in 92, a few years before I joined :ok:

Many years ago, I was r-d'ed to be O i/c live pistol firing for a whole summer. Candidates came from far and wide, the ranges were top notch, the DIs and armourers were top notch, too.

The ammunition that was supplied lacked a certain "friction".

The rounds in question had been issued and signed for: 5 straight into the revolver, 5 to rattle around in the ammo pouch - for an eight hour shift. At the end of the shift, 10 rounds and a revolver handed back to the armourer. This occured 3 times a day! This had gone on for 25 years.

After 25 years and an incident where the bullets bounced off the bad guy's leather jacket (ISYN) , it was decided to withdraw ancient ammo and consign it to range duty.

I recall standing behind a portly WO, who favoured the "John Wayne" method of range shooting - hold it belt high, forewent the advantages of the double trigger and just cycled the hammer with his left hand. Of his 5 rounds, I saw 4 exit the barrel and land short of the 15M target!

The 9mm hi-power was quite sweet, as long as your thumb web was well clear of the cocking action!

I'm surprised you're still using the Browning, it was replaced by the Glock years ago...but in the days when we 'suits' in the Head Shed had to do our annual pistol qualification, we attended as we were, wearing the obligatory suit, followed by a duty lunch at Shelly Bay and a few glasses of whatever....I blame various COs, all GDs, of that wonderful establishment who didn't have enough to do.:D but knew how to start a party.

I line up on the range, in the classic two-handed, knees bent, take aim....and loud ripping noise as trousers split from front to back..

I spent the rest of the day wearing a long mac like a flasher. Got all the shots off however, and a marksman.:ok:
The Browning was a noisy little bugger.

its better than nothing
 

Fired the Browing in Baggers, made enough noise, kept some jundies head down and made my ears ring for a few minutes while I managed to run away with the American I was with, His beretta made more noise though...

One round did go through a car door at 10m, if I am honest it should have been the car next to it but hey I was sh*ttin myself and breathing like an RAF policeman on GDT:eek:. - it was an aimed shot though.

Does anyone know when was the last time shot down aircrew decided to shoot it out with the opposition like "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid". ?

Surely the weapon is issued as part of the survival pack for shooting rabbits ;).......or yourself if Terry is coming to get you :eek:

Not exactly......................:hmm:

AIDU - Terry is a mate of Al :ok:

Al and his mates are friends of Ossie :ok:

Al is in fact Alice which begs the question Alice? Alice?...who the f@ck is Alice? :E

Terry is properly called Terry Taliban. The Taliban is closely connected with Al Quaeda, which is largely run by Osama (Ossie to his mates) Bin Laden :}

I did mention to a FJ pilot once a facetious comment I had read to the effect that aircrew and guns were a dangerous mixture.

The response was "It's safe enough really. The only way you can hurt someone with one of the PPKs is to hit them with it".

More like Aliice? Alice? were the f@ck is Alice?....sung to their long suffering boss after a night in the Shepards...wasn't me