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Wiley 29th Nov 2007 10:50


Surprised no one else has mentioned Battle of Britain.
Fantastic movie, but you mean there were actually aeroplanes in it? My main recollection is of Susannah York in her suspender belt and RAF-issue bloomers. Set the blood coursin' through the veins and showed us all what the chaps were fightin' for.

Re Erroyl Flynn: I had forgotten 'Dawn Patrol', where I understand more stunt pilots died than the USAF has suffered casualties in some recent wars. The final scenes in 'The Great Waldo Pepper' were set in very similar circumstances. (Not a war-ie, but having sat through TGWP again recently, it still stands as one of the better aviation movies I've seen.) I was thinking more of Erroyl Flynn's utterly awful efforts to boost the war effort in WW2, particularly that one set in Burma where he showed that Bill Slim and the whole 14th Army could have stayed at home in Blighty for the duration, 'cos Erroyl cleaned up the entire Japanese Army all on his own with that inexhaustible magazine he had on this Thompson Gun.

spocla 29th Nov 2007 10:54

The best thing in 12 O'Clock High is the opening sequence. They actually land a B17 wheels up for, and close to, the cameras. Also other boys in the circuit rolling out on "final" at about 20'. But for me its The Way to the Stars.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 29th Nov 2007 11:08

Good: can't decide between Dam Busters (un abridged) and Appointment in London

Bad: Airplane. One or two bits were very unrealistic.

Warmtoast 29th Nov 2007 11:20


Strategic Air Command with Jimmy Stewart.
Magestic sequence of B-36 at altitude with appropriate lilting music.
Agree thoroughly. I first saw it in 1955 and was blown away by the shots of the B-36's contrailing into the sunset with all ten engines running.

I recorded it to my TV/DVD recorder and will post some appropriate awe inspiring screen shots in due course.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...dSreenShot.jpg

A bit about the base at which the film was shot can be found here:
http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/b36genhistpg3.html

Dominoe 29th Nov 2007 11:29

War Films
 
My fav - We were Soldiers
I think that Finding Private Ryan went a long way in trying to introduce the true realism of battle.
Worst - Behind enemy Lines - Just how long did that air to air missile fly for and make 90 degree spot turns? Oh and Gene Hackman (was he the Admiral?) shouting the guys name down the microphone and then saying "Oh I shouldn`t have said that should I". Groan.

Smudger552 29th Nov 2007 11:35

The Best?
 
..its got to be The Final Countdown. F14s V. Jap Zeros......quality!

Smudge

dakkg651 29th Nov 2007 11:36

Wiley

Susan Hampshire was actually Susanna York and I don't think they were issue panties!

You are right about getting the blood coursing though.

With the BoB and Dambusters My other favourite film is The Bridges at Toki Ri. Panthers off an Essex carrier, great special effects (mostly) and Grace Kelly in a swimsuit.

Anyone remember the film 'High Flight' starring Anthony Newley which follow the progress of RAF ab initios through Piston Provosts and Vampires to flying the Hunter?
Terrible storyline but worth seeing for the flying sequences and hearing that wonderful bluenote.

I think Pearl Harbour might possibly be the worst. Can't be sure as I got p*****d off after the first half hour and consigned it to the bin.

Gainesy 29th Nov 2007 11:37

Mr Wiley, you appear to be geographically challenged. York not Hants.:)
Unfortunately, entirely the wrong shots here.:( I understand that the rest of the film was about aeroplanes or something.
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/york.jsrpa...s2/2sylbob.jpg

Standby Scum 29th Nov 2007 11:39

Poor dog can only be called Trigger these days.:{

illuminate 29th Nov 2007 11:41

without doubt the battle of britain, if that film fails to stir then somethingis wrong with you...

although black and white films, angels one five is a favourite of mine

catbert 29th Nov 2007 11:42

I've always had a soft spot for Clint Eastwood in Firefox, the thinking man's aircraft! That and the recruiting film with the Vangelis soundtrack (12 Sqn Buccaneers?) got me to sign on the dotted line.
CB

charliegolf 29th Nov 2007 11:49

I'm with GeeRam: The Hunters has some excellent F86 stuff in it.

CG

xraf 29th Nov 2007 11:51

12 Sqn Buccs is good and still available (on ebay!) but no one has mentioned The Right Stuff - Well the first half anyway with actual footage of Glennis!- the space bit gets a bit tedious later.

Regards
Xraf:ok:

Timeout 29th Nov 2007 11:59

....I can't believe no one has mentioned the Iron Eagle films yet :}

F-16's with about 400 bombs and 57 missiles on a rescue mission to save his dad all whilst listening to Queen with a cassette player strapped to his leg. Magic :D

camelspyyder 29th Nov 2007 12:20

Coastal Command
 
B/W War documentary from about 1942...

my favourite bit:

As the Eng is struggling to plug a massive fuel leak in the wing root of a Sunderland, one of the Wop/AG's in the vicinity has to to told to put his fag out!!!:):):)

F34NZ 29th Nov 2007 12:27

I wondered when someone was going to mention Iron Eagle. The old joke still stands : 'Have you ever seen a worse film than 'Iron Eagle' ?' 'Yep, Iron Eagle 2, 3, 4, 17...'

The fighter world's answer to Police Academy.

55HTB 29th Nov 2007 12:41

In trying to educate our US colleagues out here in sandy places, I showed the The Dambusters (1955 version) just yesterday over a pizza and nea-beer! Despite much gnashing of teeth when forementioned hound made his first appearance the concensus was 'brilliant', 'awesome' and 'best flight movie I've seen'.

Not sure if these foreign votes count against the survey or not, but the Dambusters gets my vote every time!!!

dakkg651 29th Nov 2007 12:49

Another magic film sequence is Steve Mcqueen beating up the control tower with a B17 in The War Lover.

Also, if you have the Battle of Britain on DVD, try stop framing the moment that the attacking Hispano (Me109) passes over the airfield fence in the early part of the film. I estimate that the prop tips were less than two feet clear of the top strand! Awesome!

Wiley 29th Nov 2007 13:06

A few people have mentioned the movie ‘Memphis Belle’, which, while an enjoyable piece of fiction, was a crock and bore no resemblance at all to the actual events it is supposed to portray.

Has anyone seen the original ‘Memphis Belle’ documentary made by Howard Hawkes in 1943, when he and his film crew accompanied the crew of the ‘Memphis Belle’ on their 25th mission over Europe? (They were the first USAAF crew to complete a 25 mission tour with the 8th Air Force.) It has some very good air to air shots of contrailing B17s in mass formation and Bf109s making quarter attacks on the aircraft carrying the cameras – and not staged either, but for real. However, what was really outstanding was the way the very young captain managed his crew during the fighter attacks. Professional in the extreme - it was like watching a really sharp crew handling a really tough sim. session and getting nothing wrong.

Duncoffin 29th Nov 2007 14:31

Here is my opinion, I know you've all be waiting for it:

best: Battle of Britain

worst: Top Gun - that film we all love to hate.

I think Hotshots is an underdog, I've seen it two or three times and only just noticed that there little in the way of continuity in the way of aircraft, even in the same flight sequence


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