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TonkaEngO 25th Oct 2007 13:04

1hr 20 flash to bang

Good drills

Winch-control 25th Oct 2007 13:15

Back on thread...AS an off-licence you are not permitted to sell alcohol to on-duty in uniform Police Officers, (Question the reason why by all means!) This Guy has simply read the 'uniforms' bit and applied his (limited) knowledge across the board. OOps, error, should have been end of story. However, when you get the press and 'growbags' involved, there you go....

Two's in 25th Oct 2007 13:15


is now OK out and about due to the lack of IRA etc.
Now there's an assumption...

South Bound 25th Oct 2007 13:36

Reports I heard about suggested said salesperson was ranting on about not agreeing with the War in Iraw/Afg etc. Witness statements to that effect, but clearly only second hand.

Wensleydale 25th Oct 2007 14:06

Mad Mark.

I have just been down to my locker to look at the label inside my flying suit. It states:

Product Coverall Aircrew Mk14.

So perhaps before you start mouthing off you should check what you wear. Otherwise one talks like a .....

I accept that the fact it is now a uniform may have changed since my training days many years ago, but the stock name remains. I remember flying with a "coverall" over my blues (although far too many years ago) and accepted that we couldn't wear them down town for that reason.:ok:

Withdraw pin and roll slowly.....

Kitbag 25th Oct 2007 14:21

No 14 Dress from the appropriate document.


Occasions for wear.

No 14 Dress is worn by all ranks, when actively employed on flying duties unless otherwise ordered. It is not to be worn routinely in off base areas
As the guy was in the Army it isn't really relevant, now lets get back to bashing the ungrateful civvie population rather than a 'my uniform is more exclusive than yours' argument.


Mike Read 25th Oct 2007 15:20

When I worked for an airline a "policeman's change" was slipping off your uniform jacket and into a civvy one so you could stop off for a cooling half at the end of a hard day. So most of us kept a scruffy jacket in our cars!

Seldomfitforpurpose 25th Oct 2007 15:40

I always wear a fleece over my flying suit whenever I travel to/from my place of work. If anyone seriously believes that all terrorist threats have gone away with the standing down of PIRA..................:ugh:

PS I love the fact that any mention of flying suits seems to enrage those not entitled to wear one to the point they almost self combust in their rush to argue the toss.............me I couldn't give a **** as I am allowed to wear it pretty much anywhere on my unit which definitely proves it ain't a coverall:p

TonkaEngO 25th Oct 2007 17:57

Seldom,
Look closely, the only people getting uptight about it are the ones that wear them


Crack on.......

Kitbag 25th Oct 2007 18:19

TonkaEngO :D


The rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
This incident is an affront to all members of HM Forces, get back to the thread. I know I would have been a little less than speechless if someone had pulled that on me.

PTT 25th Oct 2007 19:44

The officer in question should have informed said BP sales assistant that we only went to war for the purpose of oil anyway, so he has a job because we did our job! :rolleyes::ok:

Runaway Gun 25th Oct 2007 20:07

Maybe if he wore a sidearm the guy wouldn't have been so blatantly cheeky...

Green Flash 25th Oct 2007 20:31

Obviously BP can do without our hard earned cash. Fair enough. Boycott BP. Pass it on.

FlyerFoto 25th Oct 2007 22:08

Surely if the attendant was so far up his religious and/or moral *rse as to not want to serve the guy, he shouldn't have been working in a place where they sold alcohol anyway - a touch of the good old corner-shop attitude - 'we're not allowed to touch the stuff, but we're sure as hell going to make money out of those that do'

Hypocritical tw*ts!!!

doubledolphins 26th Oct 2007 09:05

The explanation is rather weak unless the server was from a country where the diferences between Police and Army are less well defined than here.


PS. Matelots often go on organised "Rig Runs" whilst on official visits etc.:ok:

Al R 26th Oct 2007 09:40


Monkey tamer said:
What I really detest is people walking about town without headdress on... that is all the public may see of us- make the effort!!
Bang on. I will head back from the gym tonight, and I just know that at the the supermarket or outside the chippy, in public view will be a couple of wretched erks or sallow faced teenage matelots.. hands in pockets, chewing chips like BSE infected cattle at the cud, generally whingeing like f:mad:k about being told to do something that they 'didn't join up for' and generally, looking absolutely.. PATHETIC. The SWO needs to get his arse down there pronto and double them back to the unit to be locked up, or is that intruding on their human rights, the poor little poppets.

As for the chap in question, anyone who uses BP fullstop needs to ask themselves what planet they're on. They supported the Nazis, they arranged to supply the Kaiser's Navy, they trample over Alaska, SA and the Middle East with a dissregard that even other oil companies find dreadful and as we saw from the fine handed down to them yesterday, they don't give a damn about their workers in the States, so why should they care about this. BP is the only fuel card I haven't got. I would rather juice up with Tesco muck than stop at BP.

Runaway Gun 26th Oct 2007 10:45

So wearing a uniform is good enough for when you are representing your country (which is also the whinge-arses country) and possibly getting shot at when doing so, but you can't buy groceries like any other citizen? Ooh - a bottle of wine.... bad man.

Basil 26th Oct 2007 16:20

Basil said:

WTF has it to do with Sainsburys?
If the Police rule is no buying booze whilst in uniform then that is up to the individual police officer and Chief Constable; hardly any business of the retailer.
Oops! Basil was wrong :\

Stones Justices Manual Vol I
6-783 178. Offences in relation to constables. If the holder of a justices' licence —
(a) knowingly suffers to remain on the licensed premises any constable during any part of the time appointed for the constable's being on duty, except for the purposes of the execution of the constable's duty, or
(b) supplies any liquor or refreshment, whether by way of gift or sale, to any constable on duty except by authority of a superior officer of the constable, or
(c) bribes or attempts to bribe any constable,
he shall be liable, to a fine not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale.

(which, coincidentally is the same penalty as for permitting licenced premises to be a brothel :O )

So the salesman MAY have misunderstood the law after all.

HAL9000 26th Oct 2007 17:32

Haven't read all the previous posts so apologies if I am repeating something but if a flying coverall is not a uniform does that mean all aircrew that find themselves in enemy territory can be shot as spies?

C130 Techie 26th Oct 2007 19:58


So the salesman MAY have misunderstood the law after all.
Yeh Right:yuk:


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