"The only real difference between us Army and you Air Force chaps doing anything is that we can generally support an aircraft with a handful of staff whereas it takes half of bloody Lincolnshire to support an Air Force frame."



You dont need many staff to look after all those U/S aircraft when they rarely fly!! Other than the Apache there is not much for the AAC to boast about. A couple of Lynx here and there that are extremely limited does not compare to the operational footprint of SH and the Jungly fleet

Standing by for standard Army witty reposte with regards to RAF Crewmen :rolleyes:

King Airs - back on subject
 

To save everyone re-reading the last 6 years worth of the RAF V Army same same message can we skip back to the B350 topic.

What fills the gap between now and next year? Continue with the current asset(s) the plural is in case we get another one. The UAV forum is a worrying combat indicator that upstairs hope no one sees the actual state of things untill all the new toys are up and running, mid - late next year

It really doesn't matter who operates them though; add it to the fleet where the current low level version comes from, that outfit seem to cope with a mixture of races and ego's ok.

Door Slider

come on now you need a fair few techies for all those blade strikes on flag poles !!!!:eek:

"The only real difference between us Army and you Air Force chaps doing anything is that we can generally support an aircraft with a handful of staff whereas it takes half of bloody Lincolnshire to support an Air Force frame."

The RAF would only take a handful of people if our fleet was as technical as a balsa glider!

effects - The Apache is a pretty technical piece of kit, as TWA are finding out the hard way.

BTW, how many RAF techies do you know of who took up the offer to transfer across to the REME as 'instant Sgts' when they were bringing the Apache into service?

Now here are a couple of questionable posts:

effects said - "The RAF would only take a handful of people if our fleet was as technical as a balsa glider!"

That is just plain silly, rotary have always been more technically demanding that fixed wing if only for the number of moving parts - nice wind up though effects!:ok:

Notso Helpful Stacker the fact remains that the Army are coping and name for me any new aircraft introduced to service that hasn't had problems? As for the transfer of RAF techies to 'instant' REME sergeants, apart from a very obvious step up in life, why would someone in a black shoes and overalls environment want to go out and live among the muck and bullets?;)

"That is just plain silly, rotary have always been more technically demanding that fixed wing if only for the number of moving parts "

That is why in the Army they have glorified motor mechanics working on them!

Any RAF FJ is more 'technically demanding' than rotary and yes before you ask I have worked on both.:)

I think you are confusing something thats looks complicated but has simple mechanical properties with more the sophisticated systems that are used in modern fixed wing aircraft that require 'real' technical ability to maintain.

"why would someone in a black shoes and overalls environment want to go out and live among the muck and bullets?;)"

eeerrrr.........because of the obvious step DOWN in life possibly :p

Just a point - how is changing black boxes at all hard??

It's not, trust me I did it for a few years. What is hard is knowing which black box to change :ok:

...and knowing what to do after you've changed all the black boxes and the fault is still there.

So, following that logic, isn't it the same for fixed and rotary?

and if that is true, is it not the case that the techs are all the same?

Is this not another non-argument we're in again?

Door slider....................... Do you just slide the door and peer underneath or do you have a real job like us poor SNCO PILOTS!!!!!!!!! in the AAC !hmmmmm! blah blah blah boringggggggggggggggggggg!:ugh:

Air International reporting four King Airs to be operated by AAC, but initially out of Waddington. Delivery expected aroundabout.. now

Air International reporting 4 King Airs
 

I think they are confused with the Nav trainers because the 350s are still flying around a parts bin in Kansas, and will be for several months at least.

But who ends up flying them is currently in the light blue corner.... once TWA have gone through the teething for us! (Cheers easy)

At the rate we are going through the Alberts in Theatre we better prepare the King Airs for freight ops as well!

THH - busy reading my 350 P.O.H. in anticipation.....

http://www.hawardenspotters.info/JENC_5e.jpg

Quoted as Beech 300C, rather than 350. Typo? Mistake?

Any news on who will operate them?

Reported by at least one press source as 5 Squadron at Waddington, under designation Shadow R1.

Those who DO know aint' saying!!!

The Shadow Knows.