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BEagle 25th Aug 2007 12:22

Perhaps all this will wake up the idiot UK government and force them to realise that the primary purpose of the UK Armed Forces is to defend the UK - not to tart about interfering in other people's wars licking Bush's ar$e in a 'lean' and 'agile' 'expeditionary' manner :yuk:?

If so, then thanks indeed to Mr Putin!

Green Flash 25th Aug 2007 12:31


Also, is there any truth in the rumour that a rushed study looking at putting a Type 101 radar up at Saxa Vord has already been completed? See earlier posts reference the lack of radar coverage up north. I wonder how much of the recent incursions were actually tracked - at a guess not much!
Guess where HMS Darings' first cruise will be, then?!

BEagle 25th Aug 2007 12:42

Why - do they have good CockersPs in Saxa?

PingDit 26th Aug 2007 01:46

AonP, WolvoWill,

You're both obviously communist plants/sleepers, and ask too many serious questions. As I've now realised this, I absolutely refuse to let you know anything about our new 'Sticklebrook' defence system which has been designed specifically to combat the new Bear problem!

PD
:suspect:

Green Flash 26th Aug 2007 13:17

Bank Holiday in progress - what's the money on them having another push in the expectation that we're all in front of the BBQ?! Or have they blown the fuel budget for the year?

F34NZ 26th Aug 2007 13:39

Green Flash, we'll run out of F3s before Russia runs out of fuel.

Green Flash 26th Aug 2007 13:54

F34
Good job we were far sighted enough to develop the Typhoon, then!:rolleyes:
I sort of guessed they might have more fuel. We are about to live in yet more interesting times, methinks.:uhoh:

But our equally far sighted leaders will have thier fingers on that particular pulse too. I'm sure. So that's allright, then.

airsound 26th Aug 2007 16:57

Radio 4 had an interesting piece on 'BH' (0900 this morning) by ex-Moscow correspondents Bridget Kendall and Brian Hanrahan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/bh/
go to 'listen again' and the piece starts at time 21mins 40secs.

They suggest (at time 26mins30secs) that the only reason the Russians stopped sending Bears et al to test our alert systems is that they couldn't afford the fuel. Now they can afford it again.

airsound

F34NZ 26th Aug 2007 19:21

Green Flash : Indeed; that was a jibe at the F3. The twist to this posturing could come sooner than we hope, however, if the expropriation of foreign stakes in the oil and gas industries denies Russia the expertise it needs to efficiently exploit its reserves. If European governments finally learn to stand together instead of knifing each other for crumbs (yes I am holding my breath; why do you ask ?) we may yet see Putin's sucessor take a more mature stance.

On the other hand, he may have just successfully provoked Georgia in an election year, in which case the interesting times will be upon us very soon.

Green Flash 26th Aug 2007 19:28

F3 poke rcvd loud and clear!

tablet_eraser 27th Aug 2007 06:40


Originally Posted by Torygraph
Radar operators at RAF Fylingdales, the early warning station 20 miles away on Lockton High Moor, had just identified two unknown aircraft speeding towards British airspace...

Wow. Missed that one.

ORAC 28th Aug 2007 06:49

So, where is our top secret UK strategic bomber base then? Or are they flying so intensively they never have the time to land anywhere? :hmm:

RAF Secret Strategic Bomber Base
http://captainscarlet.sfdaydreams.com/cloud1.jpg

DefenseNews: Russia Says Bombers Not Flying With Nukes
REUTERS, MOSCOW

Russian bombers, which this month resumed their Soviet-era practice of flying long-range patrols near NATO airspace, are not carrying nuclear weapons, a senior air force commander said Aug. 27......

"These flights are being carried out without nuclear weapons onboard," the commander of Russia’s long-range aviation, Pavel Androsov, told reporters at the defense ministry........

Androsov said Western alarm over the resumption of the long-range patrols had been fanned artificially. "We have been flying, are flying and will continue to fly," he said. "Our colleagues are not sitting on their laurels. If you look at the pilots of the strategic aviation of America and Great Britain, they have also not been sitting in their airbases. They are flying very intensively.".........

MarkD 28th Aug 2007 14:57

obviously the Vulcan back-to-flight project is being taken very seriously!

TEEEJ 29th Aug 2007 10:16

They have people hiding in the bushes around Bruntingthorpe as we speak ;)

Fearless_Leader 3rd Sep 2007 11:33


I could ask if they were tracked all the way from 30 east, intercepted at the edge of cover, continuously tracked until departing the ADR etc - but that's niff-naff and trivia.

What's far more interesting is the message the Russians are sending with this, and the previous, penetrations.
Gee, and I wonder if you worked on EO or EOA at a CRC??? Lol...

:)

Fearless_Leader 3rd Sep 2007 11:35


ORAC,

To bit a spotterish, I'd doubt they were tracked much of the way at all, what with the decidedly patchy radar coverage that far north.

Remember Faeros, Saxa and Iceland? All widely reported as closing recently, its a long way from Norway to Benbecula!

Perhaps a bit of a haisty decision to close them all to save money?
Don't we have an E3D fleet...? Or are they a bit busy? :ugh:

ORAC 3rd Sep 2007 11:51

EO and EO UEO/LEO examiner. Had to love that Link 3, those twiddly knobs and those ridiculous tests at around midnight.

Maple 01 3rd Sep 2007 17:53

Rmvngdt Fep1 Fep2?

DTY/LKS 6th Sep 2007 11:38

Intercept of Russians again
 
Sky News are reporting breaking news that RAF Tornados have intercepted 8 Russian Aircraft approaching UK Airspace. It is believed to be the "Bear" aircraft again, but this time 8 of them.

I've_got a traveller 6th Sep 2007 11:45

The Russians are coming!!!!!!
 
I'm off home to build a shelter and stock up on baked beans!!!!:eek:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283041,00.html


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