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wg13_dummy 9th Feb 2007 23:41


SASless

Now you have wound me up. Good skills.

As a "shaved ape", I have been a navigation instructor, tactics instructor, gunnery instructor, EW instructor. I have navigated helicopters hundreds of miles over the sea by DR to and from fixed and moving points. BTW, I have also supervised ab-initio pilots low level navigation, and flown the a/c while the young man in the RHS wallpapers the cockpit. I have also operated radar and all the other bumf that goes with being a Crewman in the British Armed Forces.

The skill set of a Brit Crewman is far advanced from your "shaved ape" that you flew with.

Yes, I have completed training courses prior to aquiring each skill set, but I have had the nous to be able to do that.

2 nations divided by SASless.
But your not actually a pilot, right? :hmm:

TheWizard 9th Feb 2007 23:44


had lunch today with two of my "shaved apes" from Vietnam days.
As I thought, one too many Budweisers for lunch!? :yuk:

Clear Right,Px Good! 9th Feb 2007 23:47

Spurlash,

Well said, I have to agree. SASless, as I said before I hold no grudges and I am sure that the men you had lunch with certainly are amoungst the finest, but you miss my point.

After all, we are talking about the difference between military powers -one of which has Airframes Techs, Engine Techs and Avionics Techs, the other has L/H Wheel Tech, R/H wheel Tech, Front Five Access Panel Tech and so on.......
CRPxG

wg13_dummy 9th Feb 2007 23:48

Budweisers?

I couldn't get my Hamster pissed on that cack.

I can see this thread will go like every other thread on Pprune.

A yank v brit UFC tournament.

Not that I have a problem with that of course..................

TheWizard 9th Feb 2007 23:49


But your not actually a pilot, right?
Nah, he probably couldn't afford to take a pay cut;)

wg13_dummy 9th Feb 2007 23:51

Speak for yourself........;)

Clear Right,Px Good! 9th Feb 2007 23:56

Probably couldnt afford to take a pay cut.....What!

Obviously that doesnt include the £50,000 FRI then?


Sorry,

£30,000 for NCOs

TheWizard 10th Feb 2007 00:03


Obviously that doesnt include the £50,000 FRI then?
You mean the one that everyone is suddenly eager to know how to pay back because they now want to get out?? :ugh:

wg13_dummy 10th Feb 2007 00:05

50k is fcuk all compared to a quality of life. ;)

Clear Right,Px Good! 10th Feb 2007 00:09

WG13,

Couldn't have put it better myself, there are some that say money is everything, theyre tw*ts and dont we know it.

Time for bed, take care whoever you are!

CRpxGood

wg13_dummy 10th Feb 2007 00:14

May the force be with you..........

SASless 10th Feb 2007 00:24

Actually it was two pints of Guinness.:E


Only Chav's and the frustrated drink Budweiser. :=

After all drinking Bud is like making love in a canoe.....fecking near water.:{

wg13_dummy 10th Feb 2007 00:33

...And of course the rest of the US beer breweries are top notch?


I remember doing an exchange with Illesheim Apache guys at 6/6 many years ago and we took a Lynx full of Boddingtons down with us. We presented a crate to them on the first night and we couldnt understand why they all fell over within 60 minutes of drinking a couple of cans.

We realised later that the reason was because they were a bunch of shandy swilling poofters who spent most of their time high fiving each other and touching each others bottoms.


It really fcuked them the next day when we showed them the envolope of the Lynx. :)


US Army aviators? Faggots.

I'd rather drink with a load of crab haver bag operatives.

Faithless 10th Feb 2007 07:02

Im sorry to say boys and girls, Brits and spams but it seems to be working with a certain fixed wing sqn at the mo. It employs all 3 services from Army LCpls, RAF SNCOs & Officers and at the mo Navy Officers. All seems to be going very well. The Army lads & Lasses are greatful in the knowledge to other two services are providing.

Please lets be real here Im sure 60 to 70% of ADGs could do an excellent job in the back of SH. there will always be some that are not up to the job! They are not all LCpls. They employ Cpls and Sgts SSgts.

The seniors have to qualify to become ADGIs HWI/CSW. That means another 14 weeks of courses. thats on top of the normal new 8 week Aviation rear crewmen course.

After all the are some massive diferences between Army Aviation and SH isnt there?

Python21 10th Feb 2007 12:46

A few days ago when I read the first post in this thread I thought give it a week and it will have degenerated into 'Mines bigger than yours' topic. It didn't take that long and there must be better things to do in life.
Right now, as you read this, 17 Million people are having sex - And look at you, you're on the bloody computer!!!!

midsomerjambo 10th Feb 2007 12:59

Yeah, but so are you Python. Still, she'll be back from shopping shortly ;)

ShyTorque 10th Feb 2007 15:07

"After all the are some massive diferences between Army Aviation and SH isnt there?"
Reminds me of a story...

A colonel, AAC, was being flown in the cabin of a Puma. He attempted to attract the attention of the Flight Sergeant crewman: "Staff.....Staff. I say, STAFF!"

Eventually the crewman said: "Sir - are you addressing ME?"

"Of course, I am, STAFF!"

"Well sir, I'm not a Staff Sergeant, I'm a Flight Sergeant.... so I respond to 'Flight' ".

"Well - Flight Sergeant, if you were in the ARMY you would be a STAFF Sergeant!"

"SIR!", Said the crewman. "If I were in the ARMY, I would probably have made Brigadier by now!!" :rolleyes:

toddbabe 10th Feb 2007 16:31

Where is this 30k fri for nco's then?

Faithless 10th Feb 2007 17:08

Shy Torque :yuk: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

Clear Right,Px Good! 10th Feb 2007 19:26

Todd
 
I have sent you a PM, nothing contentious, just some info!

CRPxGood


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