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JessTheDog 31st Dec 2006 10:54

Gay recruitment drive by RAF
 
As seen on ARRSE:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../31/ngay31.xml


Air Force enlists Stonewall for gay recruits
Sunday Telegraph

The Royal Air Force has called in a gay pressure group to help solve its recruitment crisis. The Service will take advice from Stonewall on how to make itself more attractive to homosexual and bisexual men and women,and is aiming to spend tens of thousands of pounds on advertising in the "pink" media.

As part of the initiative, the RAF will pay Stonewall an undisclosed sum to join its "Diversity Champions" programme, under which commanders have to demonstrate the Service's commitment to implementing a range of policies to promote "lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) equality in the workplace". The measures will include offering equal survivor pensions to same-sex couples, creating an LGB staff group and sponsoring events such as the annual Gay Pride festival.

The "contract" between the RAF and Stonewall follows 18 months of negotiations in which senior military chiefs were told that the Armed Forces were a "turn-off" to gay men and women because of the belief that they were "entrenched with gay prejudice".

Many of the estimated 12,000 homosexual personnel in the Armed Forces have fought – and in some cases been killed – in Iraq and Afghanistan but, according to Stonewall, few if any serving gay troops feel confident enough to declare their sexuality publicly.

As part of the new undertaking, the RAF has agreed to be placed on a Workplace Equality Index, which showcases Britain's top 100 employers for homosexual and bisexual staff. Stonewall will offer RAF personnel the chance to attend its intensive two-day professional development training exercise for "rising- lesbian and gay professionals in the workplace".

Senior RAF officers will also receive a training package "designed to educate employers and their staff about the benefits of building an inclusive workplace environment for lesbian and gay staff".
A commentator wrote:


The changing of the name RAF Brize Norton to RAF Graham Norton will bring with it some changes to the way the Royal Air Force is perceived by the public.
:D

FJJP 31st Dec 2006 11:07

I am so glad that I'm out.

What's the betting that £hundreds of thousands will be diverted from op budgets to be spent on courses for all service personnel on:

'lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) equality in the workplace' and

'rising - lesbian and gay professionals in the workplace'.

It will, of course, be compulsory and it won't be long before gays are fast tracked to prove that the RAF is, indeed, championing the cause [whatever that is] at the same time sweeping away any recruiting problems.

Equality for all?

splitbrain 31st Dec 2006 11:11


Originally Posted by FJJP (Post 3044626)
I am so glad that I'm out.

Er, Freudian slip? ;) :E

JessTheDog 31st Dec 2006 11:15

I "came out"* 2 years ago...on PVR! I am sure that the problems of overstretch and low morale will easily outweigh any small gains made in targeted recruitment. The Army are losing people quicker than they can replace them, despite a high-profile recruitment campaign.
* a joke. Am I a bigot if I point out it is a joke? I am married. But I liked Brokeback Mountain. Just the outdoors bits. Honest!

Ken Scott 31st Dec 2006 11:19

Clearly their Lordships don't have enough real issues to concern themselves with - inadequate numbers of mostly outdated aircraft, poor retention of personnel fed up with endless detachments to the desert, lack of spares etc. If there are as many homosexuals in the forces as quoted (12000 - presumeably worked out using the standard perceived 6% of the population) then we already have our 'quota'. Targeting the gay community to boost recruitment will not solve the manning problem, as they will still be affected by all the same issues as affect everyone in the military. Gay or straight, people are fed up with the same things, namely inadequate resources, excessive tasking, & the poor leadership that contributes to that situation.

I'd rather see the money spent on the things we need, not on PC window-dressing, & I reckon that most of the non-heterosexual members of the armed forces would agree with me. I can't believe they would want to be fast-tracked in their careers on the basis of their sexuality alone.

BEagle 31st Dec 2006 11:33

Remember when:

LGB meant Laser Guided Bomb
EO meant Electro Optics
PC meant Personal Computer

Lucy Lastic 31st Dec 2006 11:51


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 3044659)
Remember when:

.....

PC meant Personal Computer

In my day it meant Police Constable

FJJP 31st Dec 2006 12:21

Just another example of how the language of this country has been twisted into different meanings. I appreciate that you know that I meant that 'I'm out of the Services', but in my informative years, for example, a 'gay' man was someone with an amusing and spirited character; life and soul of the party; always had a crowd round him at happy hour. And straight as a die.

Terminology hijacked by minority groups. PC brigade having you watch every single thing you say.

Freedom of speech? I'm Scottish, and I cannot call my brother 'Jock' or take the p*ss or tell an anti-Scottish joke...

Vage Rot 31st Dec 2006 15:09

More Lesbians!!! Excellent!!:D :ok: :p

Always_broken_in_wilts 31st Dec 2006 15:13

VR,

Lesbian is good, in fact bl@@dy marvellous but I think from a purely male perspective Bi Sexual girls is a much better option:E

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

Axel-Flo 31st Dec 2006 15:14

The meaning of...
 
I always thought PC was supposed to be pre-fixed by R...certainly from an RN perspective.

Oh and wasn't LGB an infamous or otherwise previous encumbant of the title "Red 10"....?:cool:

zedder 31st Dec 2006 15:46

"More Lesbians!!! Excellent!!"

Well VR, I suspect you certainly don't need to worry about your quota from the G and B fraternity over there on Pansy's Own!! ;)

Rick Storm 31st Dec 2006 16:26

I rest my case..............

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sb5pF0IF_DM

PompeySailor 31st Dec 2006 16:51

These threads are great. The ex-RN bigots on Rum Ration are a joy to behold, with quotes ranging from "shoot the pooftahs" to "it wasn't like it in my day". Rum Ration also being the place where the entire board was groomed by a paedophile for 6 months before outing himself!

Don't forget, the only difference between gay and straight is 8 pints of Fosters....and the bit about "only if you push back" is not true...

An Teallach 31st Dec 2006 17:08

Oh well, no surprise that the pink wing of NuLabour should be getting MoD payback for its part in assisting against the fight for real equality, so as to promote and maintain a ghetto.

The RAF will now have to sign up to place pointless recruitment advertisements in the ghetto 'gay press', a press largely ignored by a great majority of gay people in the country, and targetted at a section of the 'gay community' who are highly unlikely to be considering a military career.

Those of us who actually engaged in the fight for equality are as horrified by this kind of patronising bolleaux as many of our straight brothers in arms. Strangely, we all managed to find our way to the recruiting office and many of us managed to serve rather well until we were booted out. We campaigned against the type of special treatment we received then; ideally wanting just to be left to get on with our jobs. We certainly did not campaign for one type of special treatment to be replaced by another.


Stonewall will offer RAF personnel the chance to attend its intensive two-day professional development training exercise for "rising- lesbian and gay professionals in the workplace"
The mind boggles!

Anyway - another corker from ARRSE:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/uploads...sforqueers.jpg

Lima Juliet 31st Dec 2006 17:17

I guess we have to replace the loss of shirt-lifters after the closure of Colt..."If I was a Jag Mate...Ooh, Ah!...etc"

:ok:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! 31st Dec 2006 19:24


a 'gay' man was someone with an amusing and spirited character; life and soul of the party; always had a crowd round him at happy hour. And straight as a die.
Oh right. Like any straight bloke would have an amusing and spirited character; be the life and soul of the party; or ever have a crowd round him at happy hour.

http://www.earlydoors.info/general/i...ries1/gen3.jpg

Two's in 31st Dec 2006 21:49

I see Mess rules have already been amended to make offering to push somebody's stool in a promotable offence.

cyclic gal 1st Jan 2007 00:47

PC Seasons Greetings
 
a tenuous PC link here but sadly it appears to be where we are going.

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jwcook 1st Jan 2007 07:39

I'm looking forward to the call 'chocks away Ginger' ringing out once more from RAF bases?.

or listening in to the fighter jocks " this is Mountbatten pink 1, calling Fuchsia 2, you are cleared to scratch his eyes out..".

Hmm.. which set of Queens regulations do they have to follow?.

Joking aside, It doesn't matter, gay straight or lesbian as long as they are good at their job..

We all have our preferences ;-) mine... to be dipped in chocolate and thrown to the lesbians..:ooh:

Happy New year to all..


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