Originally Posted by hobie
(Post 2928555)
a slight drift .......
a question ...... what Aircraft would have been used for transfering RAF personnel to/from Aden/UK around the mid sixties? .... What would the route have been? ..... :confused: mucho gratias in advance .... |
UKMAMS have re-affirmed my belief there is a reason why some mothers eat their young at birth:D
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The only problem with that is they don't eat the placenta as well............which is the reason you end up with UKMAMS :p
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced |
ABIW......................
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...115817939_.jpg := :} Ah well half term finishes soon...... |
Hobie,
It was mainly RAF Beverlys and Britannias, with the odd Hastings thrown in for good measure. :) |
Originally Posted by breakscrew
(Post 2929095)
Hobie,
It was mainly RAF Beverlys and Britannias, with the odd Hastings thrown in for good measure. :) The route would have been UK, possibly Malta, Libya, Sudan and into the Red Sea before following the coast to Aden. Not sure where they would have flagged, certainbly the Hastings went through El Adem and then possibly Khartoum. In the 60s was it normal for the aircraft to slip crews and stream the aircraft down the route? I have an idea that slipping only really started with the Britannia and the Comet. One time at Gan I do not recall the Comet crews slipping as the hop Aden-Gan-Changi could be done in one duty period. Not so the Brit whose crews used to bitch when the Bomber Command aircon accommodation at Gan was being used by used by Bomber Command.:} Certainly the slipping practice serves to separate crew and pax. |
Originally Posted by breakscrew
(Post 2929095)
Hobie,
It was mainly RAF Beverlys and Britannias, with the odd Hastings thrown in for good measure. :) |
Many thanks Guys for the Aden info ..... :ok:
The "Boss" did 12 months down there towards the end of the UK's interest in that part of the world ..... I rem he used to send 10 duty free cigs to my mother a couple of times a week with his letters home ...... one day a letter arrived with lots of tape and a demand from the Postie for a couple of quid's Duty (HMG's Customs and Excise, $$$ bless them) ...... she simply wrote "Return to Sender" !!! ..... and off the letter went back to Aden ...:p |
Originally Posted by Rigex
(Post 2929328)
I remember seeing Argosys (Argosies?) at El Adem '67 -ish.
Wonderful machine, looked the part; pity about the armoured freight deck. |
According to the Times today the MP has received an apology. Under the headline 'RAF apologises for poor service' it reports that he has received a letter from Adam Ingram 'admitting that "the level of service you received fell far short of what you could rightfully expect."
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Wader,
True enough, the "Whistling Wheelbarrow" wonderous beast. I did a couple of years looking after non - transport, non - bomber ones. Good times. |
Originally Posted by Regie Mental
(Post 2929912)
According to the Times today the MP has received an apology. Under the headline 'RAF apologises for poor service' it reports that he has received a letter from Adam Ingram 'admitting that "the level of service you received fell far short of what you could rightfully expect."
Have just seen this also, thought others may wish to see article in full here:Clicky |
Originally Posted by SRENNAPS
(Post 2921630)
You know that I have no real idea about the regs we are talking about other than crew duty time. We all have regs to abide to and we all know how we can bend thouse regs when it suits us. So unless you are whiter than white dont go there.
Srennaps, you are making all techies and especially yourself look like a complete bunch of arses. Please speak for yourself and do not tar us all with your rule bending!. |
Originally Posted by muppetofthenorth
(Post 2930223)
Have just seen this also, thought others may wish to see article in full here:Clicky
It is good to see Akt movs getting the kicking it needs. Maybe they might raise their game a little. Although on the movers website they have resorted to blaming the army. A direct quote "Guys Some very good comments from all above. One other problem we have is as usual a lack of manpower. For example in BSR there are 4 ATLO staff and 1 RAF SAC/CPL on pax. This is because there just isn't the manpower to go round, so we have to farm it out to the Army.":ouch: Sounds like the usual excuse. It was the other shift. |
mova - I don't think that was what was implied by the post you quote. I think the fact that there are 4 to 1 Army Movers to RAF Movers at that location is the point. I didn't get a sniff of 'blame the Army' on that quote at all.
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Originally Posted by L1011GE
(Post 2930279)
Srennaps, you are making all techies and especially yourself look like a complete bunch of arses. Please speak for yourself and do not tar us all with your rule bending!.
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Originally Posted by Mr C Hinecap
(Post 2931161)
mova - I don't think that was what was implied by the post you quote. I think the fact that there are 4 to 1 Army Movers to RAF Movers at that location is the point. I didn't get a sniff of 'blame the Army' on that quote at all.
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
(Post 2931111)
It is good to see Akt movs getting the kicking it needs. Maybe they might raise their game a little.
Although on the movers website they have resorted to blaming the army. A direct quote "Guys Some very good comments from all above. One other problem we have is as usual a lack of manpower. For example in BSR there are 4 ATLO staff and 1 RAF SAC/CPL on pax. This is because there just isn't the manpower to go round, so we have to farm it out to the Army.":ouch: Sounds like the usual excuse. It was the other shift. What a surprise - one of the movers posts a message about some of the difficulties they are under and because it doesn't fit into peoples views of the movers it immediatly gets slated. And someone was asking why they don't post here with thier side of the story. :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: |
Hows about we, as aircrew, make the decision to try and brief pax ourselves when issues occur, thereby eliminating the chinese whispers. Any takers? :ok: |
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