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16 blades 26th Jul 2006 21:53


Aw, bless, has 16b been warned at some point for speeding? (Note warned. I have never in 18 yrs seen someone actually charged so I wish you guys would stop getting the old apple catchers in a twist over it!)

And you have one of those numberplates that changes the reg number to something approximating your name or A/C type or something else equally laughable do you? Guess that makes you the ****.
No, never been had by your types for speeding or anything else - because I simply tell them to f**k off and drive away. Works every time.

My point was, when you have been a VICTIM of a crime (a REAL crime, not a petty civil offence like speeding) and NEED police assistance, they are nowhere to be found. Police are NOT INTERESTED in fighting crime nowadays; they'd rather chase easy targets, rather than tackling burglars or yobs or violent offenders. This makes them nothing short of cowards.

As a result of being on the recieving end of this kind of incompetence / laziness / cowardice MORE THAN ONCE, I now completeley refuse to co-operate with the police in any situation, save where I'm legally obliged to (and those occasions are few and far between).

16B

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 21:56


Originally Posted by Tombstone
A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys & girls without whom nothing would leave the ground.

Laarbruch72,

take a look at the opening message & please help me out here...

Where the hell do RAFP fit into that sentence? I'm an educated guy however, I'm struggling with this one.:ugh:

Air Transport Security who sanitise and guard your aircraft. Dog handlers who keep undesirables off the airfield at night, keeping your aircraft safe. AES handlers that ensure that said persons have not managed to get explosives into your aircraft and / or operating area. Counter Intelligence who rid your computers of viruses after you've been playing too much internet golf...... I could go on, but point made I feel.

Besides, as I said earlier, this forum is PUBLIC. Can I be any clearer?
Clearly you're not educated enough.

Tombstone 26th Jul 2006 21:58


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Air Transport Security who sanitise and guard your aircraft. Dog handlers who keep undesirables off the airfield at night, keeping your aircraft safe. AES handlers that ensure that said persons have not managed to get explosives into your aircraft and / or operating area.

So, you're a security guard then?

16 blades 26th Jul 2006 21:59


Air Transport Security who sanitise and guard your aircraft.
Ah, yes. It's a good job you take all those nail clippers of all those squaddies..., sorry, "Potential Terrorists", when there is a 3 foot fire axe hanging on the bulkhead....

16B

rock_dove 26th Jul 2006 22:00

Is that it? All of those jobs mentioned can be encompassed by the other trades within the rest of the RAF.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:01


Originally Posted by 16 blades
No, never been had by your types for speeding or anything else - because I simply tell them to f**k off and drive away. Works every time.

My point was, when you have been a VICTIM of a crime (a REAL crime, not a petty civil offence like speeding) and NEED police assistance, they are nowhere to be found. Police are NOT INTERESTED in fighting crime nowadays; they'd rather chase easy targets, rather than tackling burglars or yobs or violent offenders. This makes them nothing short of cowards.

As a result of being on the recieving end of this kind of incompetence / laziness / cowardice MORE THAN ONCE, I now completeley refuse to co-operate with the police in any situation, save where I'm legally obliged to (and those occasions are few and far between).

16B

Hmm, maybe you need to speak to OC Police, Stn Cdr etc if you've received less than acceptable service from your local plods? Whingeing about it here gets nobody anywhere. OC plod doesn't know where his lads are going wrong, Stn Cdr is similarly none the wiser.
Tell us and we can put it right.

Tombstone 26th Jul 2006 22:02


Originally Posted by 16 blades
No, never been had by your types for speeding or anything else - because I simply tell them to f**k off and drive away. Works every time.

My point was, when you have been a VICTIM of a crime (a REAL crime, not a petty civil offence like speeding) and NEED police assistance, they are nowhere to be found. Police are NOT INTERESTED in fighting crime nowadays; they'd rather chase easy targets, rather than tackling burglars or yobs or violent offenders. This makes them nothing short of cowards.
16B

Well said. It truly is a sad state of affairs when statistics run the police forces of today.

L72,

just for you, statistics are when clever people put lots of figures (numbers) together & then come up with a lovely graph (not for you to crayon over) showing just how great they are. Ask your Air Dog for more details & make sure you call him sir when asking.;)

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:04


Originally Posted by rock_dove
Is that it? All of those jobs mentioned can be encompassed by the other trades within the rest of the RAF.

Well crack on with them Rock. They're thankless tasks (as we're proving here quite well). Find me someone else to do them and I'll go elsewhere, hell I'm only hanging on for the pension.
But oh, hang on a minute, these are jobs no-one else wants aren't they? So just be glad someone does.

wg13_dummy 26th Jul 2006 22:05


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Air Transport Security who sanitise and guard your aircraft. Dog handlers who keep undesirables off the airfield at night, keeping your aircraft safe. AES handlers that ensure that said persons have not managed to get explosives into your aircraft and / or operating area. Counter Intelligence who rid your computers of viruses after you've been playing too much internet golf...... I could go on, but point made I feel.

Besides, as I said earlier, this forum is PUBLIC. Can I be any clearer?
Clearly you're not educated enough.

I'm sure the MoD could pop down to the local job centre and recruit various window lickers to carry out the same chad valley tasks. I'll bet they could be trained in a day or two as well. Think of the cost saving.

As for "Got an intelligent reply at all?"

I'm aiming at the guest audience. Bring your dog on line and I'll give you one.

Safety_Helmut 26th Jul 2006 22:06


Gentlemen and ladies I bow to your superior knowldge - I hereby resign from this site as it so baised and not and never will be objective - I will give the poasswordds to all those who seek to find out so much about how HM Forces and her personnel think of eseach other.
good f*cking riddance, how's about you do one now L72

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:07

Ask your Air Dog for more details & make sure you call him sir when asking.;)[/quote]

From a commisioned Officer, that is a really REALLY stupid, vacuous comment.

I'm not a dog handler and never have been. Go fly your glider! (See how ignorant some people can really be?)

Tombstone 26th Jul 2006 22:07


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Well crack on with them Rock. They're thankless tasks (as we're proving here quite well).hang on a minute, these are jobs no-one else wants aren't they? So just be glad someone does.

You actually have a point there.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:08

As for "Got an intelligent reply at all?"

I'm aiming at the guest audience. Bring your dog on line and I'll give you one.[/quote]

See reply above. So predictably stupid for a growbag.

rock_dove 26th Jul 2006 22:09


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Well crack on with them Rock. They're thankless tasks (as we're proving here quite well). Find me someone else to do them and I'll go elsewhere, hell I'm only hanging on for the pension.
But oh, hang on a minute, these are jobs no-one else wants aren't they? So just be glad someone does.

We will do, once SERCO has taken complete control of the barriers......

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:09


Originally Posted by Tombstone
You actually have a point there.

Ah, light dawns! :ok:

Thanks tomb.

Tombstone 26th Jul 2006 22:10

It wasn't a stupid comment, it was banter, hence the ;).

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:11


Originally Posted by rock_dove
We will do, once SERCO has taken complete control of the barriers......

It's MPGS on the gates mainly and that's been the staus quo for about a year now.

DO catch up dear chap!

wg13_dummy 26th Jul 2006 22:11


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Ah, light dawns! :ok:

Thanks tomb.


I think you missed the irony by about 20,000 ft.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:12


Originally Posted by Tombstone
It wasn't a stupid comment, it was banter, hence the ;).

Fair enough, didn't see the winky!

As I've said all along, banter is good. Slagging and slander I don't do.

Thanks.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:14


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
I think you missed the irony by about 20,000 ft.

Maybe. Explain it to me. I'm only a stupid copper and have no idea how this high humour and sarcasm thing works.

Oh please?

Tombstone 26th Jul 2006 22:14


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
I think you missed the irony by about 20,000 ft.

I'll raise your 20K with another 20K.

Maple 01 26th Jul 2006 22:15

Don’t forget if the Irony goes above FL245 you're under radar control wg13

Sorry Lar, can only do listening watch at your level.....

wg13_dummy 26th Jul 2006 22:17


Originally Posted by Maple 01
Don’t forget if the Irony goes above FL245 you're under radar control wg13
Sorry Lar, can only do listening watch at your level.....


If I'm at FL245, something has gone very, very wrong. :ooh:

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:17


Originally Posted by Maple 01
Don’t forget if the Irony goes above FL245 you're under radar control wg13

Sorry Lar, can only do listening watch at your level.....

That's okay buddy. You're only an ASSISTANT after all. We'll have to rely on the proper controllers to do the hard stuff.
:E

Maple 01 26th Jul 2006 22:18

Ah, sorry, one of those? FIS OK?

wg13_dummy 26th Jul 2006 22:18


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
That's okay buddy. You're only an ASSISTANT after all. We'll have to rely on the proper controllers to do the hard stuff.
:E

As with you bunch of chumps. Youre just lead holders for the real brains of the operation.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:19


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
If I'm at FL245, something has gone very, very wrong. :ooh:

Well you will go trusting an RAF AATC!

"Joint guardian 95, climb flight level 245"

"Your reply here!"

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:20


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
As with you bunch of chumps. Youre just lead holders for the real brains of the operation.

Chump? Probably. At least I'm not the chump prompting you to bust your ceiling.

And yet again, I don't have a dog. Never have.

Maple 01 26th Jul 2006 22:23

You see? another copper that assumes before checking! As twoboats was told, I'm not AATC! It might supprise you to know that things aren't always what they seem! You'd have known that if you'd have read the full thread, but hey! Why change the habit of a lifetime? Why not just jump in with your size (and now I'm assuming) 9s?

wg13_dummy 26th Jul 2006 22:24


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Chump? Probably. At least I'm not the chump prompting you to bust your ceiling.

And yet again, I don't have a dog. Never have.


I fly a helicopter, ceiling busts are a dream not an option. It's like an aeroplane but with a big propellor (you know; the thing that most of you lot should have on both shoulders).


Top tip. Buy a dog. You'll double your IQ over night.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:30


Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
I fly a helicopter, ceiling busts are a dream not an option. It's like an aeroplane but with a big propellor (you know; the thing that most of you lot should have on both shoulders).


Top tip. Buy a dog. You'll double your IQ over night.

So if ATC tell you to climb FL 25, and you climb FL 35, that's not a bust? I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm afraid that I don't have a big "propellor" on my shoulders, no. For the record I think the A/Cpl rank is needing replacing too. But only with something seperate from the RAF rank structure. (BTW, you surely MUST be aware that the rank is only given for charging purposes?) I don't hear anyone complaining about RAF PTI's getting acting Cpl rank (PAID) after training!!

So what helicopter do you fly? Green, navy and yellow or white?

movadinkampa747 26th Jul 2006 22:32


Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
So if ATC tell you to climb FL 25, and you climb FL 35, that's not a bust?

No because there is no such thing as FL25. I think you mean FL250. You see it aint easy being an Air traffic controller.

Maple 01 26th Jul 2006 22:33


I don't hear anyone complaining about RAF PTI's getting acting Cpl rank (PAID) after training!!
Feel free to start a 'why don't they disband the RAF PTIs' thread, I guarantee it will be nearly as popular as this one. But I wouldn't expect too many replies from them, what with there being so many mirrors in the world and all


You see it aint easy being an Air traffic controller.
Not that I was one of course, alt given in feet up-until 3,000ft?

Lar you're dark to me.....

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:34


Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
No because there is no such thing as FL25. I think you mean FL250. You see it aint easy being an Air traffic controller.

Clearly not! Renewed respect! You were quite right. Should have added that zero!
Anyway, my point remains extant. Helicopters can and do bust ceilings.

Shjustme 26th Jul 2006 22:36

'Intelligence' has been mentioned regarding the plods, and of course it is a small world we all live in, so not everybody can get the 'top job', whether they be pilots or navs or shelf stackers or plumbers or plods.

As far as I am aware no RAF pilot or nav or shelf stacker has ever been elected chairman of MENSA, whereas one RAF Plod Cpl was some years ago. Probably another lined up for the post in due course...a worthy successor to Cpl Bill ******* who sadly passed away some years ago.

16 blades 26th Jul 2006 22:40


Not that I was one of course, alt given in feet up-until 3,000ft?
Depends on the Transition Altitude in effect for the area. In N. America it's 18,000ft.

As far as I am aware no RAF pilot or nav or shelf stacker has ever been elected chairman of MENSA, whereas one RAF Plod Cpl was some years ago.
Sure that wasn't the dog?

16B

movadinkampa747 26th Jul 2006 22:40


Originally Posted by Shjustme
whether they be pilots or navs or shelf stackers or plumbers or plods.

Isnt it intersting what order you put those jobs in with plods last behind plumbers.

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:40


Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
Surely writing statements from witnesses demands accuracy and attention to detail. Both of which you have just proved you do not posses.:E

Go on then. Point out my error....

Unless you mean the FL 25 thing.... As I'm not a AATC ATCO or a SATCO, then surely I can be forgiven that one????

I'm not bad at statements though, try me before you buy.... first one free!!

:ok:

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:43


Originally Posted by Maple 01

Lar you're dark to me.....

Meaning? You sayin I'm black??? lol

Laarbruch72 26th Jul 2006 22:46


Originally Posted by 16 blades

Sure that wasn't the dog?

16B

Cracking reply! Way to go that intelligent aircrewman there!
Sadly it's all a bit predictable really.... bit like the dig (from one of my own before you start) about navy boys being "soap on a rope" characters!

It's all bad and a waste of webspace. The dog and the gate things? Please stop before my sides split!


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