Gerry who?

I think he's that Irish fella, talks very nicely about knowing nothing about kneecaps......or maybe he's that dodgy bloke that got sent to Brussels, bit good with colours allegedly.....

More CVF related stuff here.

In service, i.e more than just launched, fully outfitted but rather in RN hands, worked up, commissioned, etc, in 2017 and 2020 at earliest.

Remember - you heard it here first folks!

ISD
 

And "Fit for Purpose" - that is, with similarly mature aircraft!

Come on guys get real - we won't get an announcement about CVF and/or the aircraft until MOD knows the outcome of the Comprehensive Spending Review (CSR). Most departments have already reached their CSR settlements with HM Treasury but MOD is holding out for more dosh. If the CSR is poor then you can bet your life that CVF slips still further.

Slightly diagonal, but it points out the way the way Australia and the other nations in SE Asia are going, and the possible Chinese CVF timeline and types.

STRATFOR: Amphibious Warships: The Real East Asian Arms Race

Wibble!

A year on from starting this thread, what progess has been made? If any?

We have 54 pages! Ain't that something?

Oh, you mean progress with the ships...

ORAC, STRATFOR link is Subscriber only, can any one provide the gist of the article?

:ugh:

Try this, if it doesn't work, I'll post a synopsis - STRATFOR

But surely everyone can see the connection between carrier aviation and amphibious capabilities? Can't they?

Meanwhile some news from Flight International:

JSF carrier trial puts VAAC Harrier testbed on a roll

I believe this issue has been discussed earlier on this this thread. The trials described in this article are a positive sign, but not a positive as main gate being passed.

If I remember correctly, the usually well informed Not a Boffin responded to this "rolling vertical" idea with the statement that he would (on balance) prefer an intimate encounter with

http://www.womenspeakers.co.uk/uploa...ddecombews.JPG
to a shipboard RVL.
Something about rolling on a wet deck with no brakes, engine spooling down, nozzles down, and no barrier.
The lady awaits, Mr Boffin.
By the way, WEBF, it's a positive step if it's really to enhance performance and not just to make the brute achieve its KPPs at all.

At the risk of being accused of prevarication, there's a long way to go from trialling the concept at A&AEE (or even aboard the vast number of large deck carriers that are available for such trials) to using the idea operationally. As such, I'd prefer to wait until at least a full-scale shipborne trial has successfully taken place before approaching the fragrant Ms Widdecombe with a winning smile, (large) bottle of wine and a couple of paper bags..........

Oh and don't bet on it being anything other than a desperate attempt to achieve the KPPs either - (the RVL that is, not the wine or paper bags!)

N-A-B, front and centre!
 

In the spirit of the man who's going to run about with a rose held between his cheeks (see other PPrune threads passim), I'd be happy to provide N-A-B with a large bottle of bubbly and a couple of paper bags if this works! :}

N-A-B: your country needs you! :E

S41

"At the risk of being accused of prevarication, there's a long way to go from trialling the concept at A&AEE (or even aboard the vast number of large deck carriers that are available for such trials) to using the idea operationally."
Indeed. But one has to start looking at the problem somewhere and when one's gathered up lots of questions to ask then it might be a good idea to see what can be done experimentally in the way of finding answers. One would need a time machine to involve A&AEE however, and if one had such a device one would of course go to NAD at RAE(B) in the first instance.
On an entirely unconnected matter, does anyone know what the Kuznetsov's schedule is this year? :}

Those with good memories will remember that the UK came up with the idea of a "Flexible Deck" and actually tested Sea Hawks landing on it without wheels on a carrier. This seems a safe bet by comparison.

None of which looks good for HM AF full stop, particularly not the RN. If this is a precursor of the CSR round, to put it in ebonics "we be f8cked"

By the way, that best-selling, unputdownable page-turner Major Projects Report 2006 from the NAO confirms that SRVL is an element of "intensive programme action" because the bring-back requirement is "at risk". Where's that alien anti-gravity technology when you need it?

Not Sea Hawks but Sea Vampires/Vampire. Suggested as an option to having to carry around an undercarriage and thus save weight when performance of early jet engines was not too brilliant IIRC.