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The Times, BBC, Sky, and the Telegraph all also reporting Windows XP, so it must have come from somewhere. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-o...on-windows-xp/ |
The Times, BBC, Sky, and the Telegraph all also reporting Windows XP, so it must have come from somewhere. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-o...on-windows-xp/ |
Regardless of whether they know about defence or not, for them all to be reporting the same thing they have all clearly been told it by someone. Most likely by someone official who does know about defence.
I'm not sure that a blog is the authority on the subject. |
Apparently a number of computer screens were showing XP when the journo's took a tour....... they're just reporting what they saw - which is our newest warship is using (in places) an OS that is dated and no longer supported
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You might have to think outside the box a little. What is going on the ship to which Windows XP would be a significant upgrade?
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Depends what they are using XP for.
If it's not for core systems then no big deal. If it's for items that have a fixed scope (no regular patches required) then no big deal. It may even be on a stand-alone system............. Plenty of big corporates out there still using and developing on XP Platforms. The benefit is that it's quite stable and well understood. No immediate need to panic I'd say.................. Arc |
a couple of months ago there was a lot of chat on the Computer bit of Prune about this - essentially the geeks reckon that as XP is unsupported you are wide open to cyber attacks and malware.
Generally the view was "on your own head be it" but that it really was bloody silly when newer safer OS have been around for years. Avoidable problem TBH |
There also remarks on weather the XP logos had been put on the screens as a cover for security or a joke. :hmm:
mmitch. |
IF someone can interpret GROK this stuff that would be nice.
CONTROLLING THE ROYAL NAVY’S QUEEN ELIZABETH CLASS AIRCRAFT CARRIERS 13 July 2009 "...A Networked Ship The QE Class are completely networked ships and IPMS is one of many electronic systems that will be provided. To support the ships operational mission, and to ensure the platform systems are configured correctly at all times to support air operations, the IPMS has interfaces with the Combat Management System (CMS), the Air Group Management Application (AGMA) and a significant number of cameras provided by Visual Surveillance System (VSS). This, along with the many platform, power and propulsion system interfaces, enables real time information relating to the status of systems to be displayed to decision makers throughout the vessel. This interaction with the Mission Systems does, however, require that IPMS be designed, configured and authorised for operating in the UK Secret domain...." http://www.mapps.l-3com.com/whitePap...%20CARRIER.pdf |
A real comedian would have put up a Sinclair Spectrum logo! :rolleyes:
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"a couple of months ago there was a lot of chat on the Computer bit of Prune about this - essentially the geeks reckon that as XP is unsupported you are wide open to cyber attacks and malware. "
I've been out of the MoD for some years now, but even then, with the end of Windows XP support imminent, the MoD had contracted with M$oft and was paying an arm and a leg for continued support for XP for a 2 year period after the official end of support to cover the migration to a new OS, certainly for the corporate intranet, not sure about operational systems. That facility for continued support was also available to other large corporate users which is probably why patches were available so quickly for general users in the latest incident. |
Plenty of big Boeings flying around with Win XP doing the business. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
How about, " cost only about one-hundredth of the money JC would waste if he was elected" . |
The attached is pretty close to what I last saw in a ship, although I'm surprised that we moved away from WIN2000. The Command and Control System doesn't need the modern whizzy version with all the interminable patches. It is stand alone and pretty well protected from bright buggers plugging in Flash Drives and the like.
Nuclear Subs Now Run on Windows |
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How about, " cost only about one-hundredth of the money JC would waste if he was elected" .:ooh:
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Well then for the trivia buffs the first quote is from the SUB one above then second quote is from a link inside the first article. Would those POLLIES be on Windows too?
"...While there have been concerns raised over the security of Windows as an operating system, the UK parliament has stated that the use of Microsoft Windows is low risk. It would seem the Windows-based systems are isolated, which should mean there is little chance of an outside cyber-attack starting Armageddon...." "...Initial reports as the programme developed suggested that the OS in question would be Windows 2000, but those who have worked on it have since informed the Reg that in fact it is mostly based on XP...." Royal Navy completes Windows for Submarines? rollout ? The Register |
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So up til now no one knows 'hows yur father'?
UK works on carrier aviation command structure 27 Jun 2017 Tim Ripley UK works on carrier aviation command structure | Jane's 360 |
Not much point in doing a lot until they knew she would actually arrive and when - could have been canmcelled, delayed etc etc and 10 years ago you'd have no real idea what the ctructure of the armed forces and the MoD would be in 2017,
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As recently as last year, we supplied a number of XP based systems for the 2 carriers. We were requested to supply XP as an operating system and it was a right pain in the arse to get the correct COA.
On a brighter note, we have been advised to expect an order to upgrade all the systems to a newer OS. This will likely involve some hardware updates as well so it should be a "nice little earner". :) |
Max Hastings: HMS Queen Elizabeth is a £6bn blunder | Daily Mail Online
The above link shows Max Hastings hasn't changed his mind about the Carriers. He's right about the circumstances which forced them to be built. He's also right that the real damage has been done persevering with such an aircraft the cost of which intended to be economic for all, has due to the technological complexities disappeared off the opposite end of the scale. And I maintain the Jet which will, some day, operate from them, because no other can thanks to the design, will be the least capable of the three marks. The F-35B isn't a Harrier replacement, it is a club foot to go with a Hunched Back! FB:) |
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