RAF JPA Rollout
 

Any first thoughts? Good or Bad? How will the other services find it?

Hi Gang;

I wish I could play....:confused:

The RAF rollout on 20 March has not yet reached the plebians...
Only the demi-gods of the 'House of Handbrake' are allowed to play.

Hell...I aint even dont the compulsory training package yet...
:hmm:
Is it worth me moaning about the allowances backed up from Jan yet???:mad:

More Later;
'J' Bloke!!:cool:

If I had the choice of doing the JPA training package again or having battery acid poured into my eyes from a great height...........................I'd go for the battery acid every time!!!!!!! :}

We'll tell you in four days' time when we've been paid...
...or not :uhoh:

i tried to get a password on wednesday last, after being told they (it types) couldnt give them out until JPA had rolled out, only to be told i cant get 1 until the 6th april!:{

why oh why oh why do people fix things for the sake of it?!?! yes PSF was rubbish, but it was open most days unless it was sports afternoon or training day or force developement day....... hang on........:hmm: *bashes head against wall*........ ok so JPA is probably goiing to be better! tell ya on 6th april!!;)

Personally had a nightmare so far

I am (WAS!) planning leave 1 - 6 April. Not allowed on JPA yet, paper leave applications defunct WEF 1 April. Do I leave the "Application for Authorised Absence" in top drawer and fill JPA AFTER said absence.???

I've left mine with the Boss JIC someone thinks I'm skiving (fat chance) :ok:

Anyone have any clue as to what the rates are?

Off to the states but can't see where in the JSP752 that it lists what I can spend on meals.

I'd hate to not eat enough:E

PSF is the obvious answer but they have locked down "due to JPA"!!!:8

JPA paper forms do still exist for when individuals can't access the system or calll the JPAC EC. Your Chief Clerk should have the forms. If not they are on the Knowledge base on the AFPAA Info Centre on INTRANET.
Re; rates, I believe that the main AT stations are still going to issue FSI for the forseable future as capped actuals are cleary unworkable for these staions and their crews.

:mad: JPA :mad: ing:mad: ats
JPA 'down' (great title for a blunt book) all over the world, no paper back up and told that my disturbance allowance has been reduced by a third as a result of the new 'one-size-fits-all system", because "you is only entitled to the same as the enlisted filth now sah". Is it me, or was that little gem hidden in the small print?
JPA Junkie

mrwickets
 

The balancing of disturbance allowance was not a funtion of JPA, it was an exercise to cut the cake more appropriately. If you're unhappy with your lot you shouldn't have done so well at skool should you? Anyway, my understanding was that it's not a cut but a standstill until us erks catch up (which seasonally adjusted and allowing for inflation could, I know, be seen as a cut I suppose)

Grimweasel
 

They might well still run FSIs; that is still an option. However, the allowance rates will still be the same capped actuals. The overseas rates are not in JSP752 because thay are declared each month by Directed Letter from the Allowances Policy people.

Regards

Ginseng

Endplay
 

The married Officer rates of DA were cut to align with the ORs rates. The manoey generated pays for elements of DA for those who would not previously have been entitled at all. That is where the different cutting of the cake has applied. All DA rates could go up or down in future, but the hint is that down is more likely than up.

Regards

Ginseng

Ginseng - Ahhh thank you ...
Endplay - Didn't do well at skool; just a JT having a laugh and nobody's found out yet ;)
Well, they hadn't until now :O

I'm on det now and it goes over the planned start of the new rates on JPA. I have no idea how much I am allowed after the 1st of April as the capped actuals rate was not available when I left. I get the feeling I'm going to get stiffed and may never be properly reimbursed. Thats progress!!

The rates thing is FUBAR'd. Questions have been asked by fellow Ivory Tower residents about things like Missed Meals when attending mtgs in Town. No good answer really. 'They' have no damned idea.

Possibly the worst-introduced IT system this century??

JPA training package
 

In case anyone was wondering you can just enrol yourself on the ‘Training Package’ then exit and tick complete.....

At the end of the day how hard can it be... :ok:

Stand By for incoming Blunty Noise!!! :mad:

We'll get paid this month as it was done by the old system before they pulled the plug. It's April we need to worry about. Apparently though, we should all keep a month's pay in reserve, so that's OK then!

I understand that JPA will stop you filing a post-date leave pass. boo boom.

Now I do feel sorry for those on PAS :cool: or Flying Pay , how will they manage to do this....:rolleyes:

Soooooo, if I dont get paid can I say they have breached my contract and thus I can consider they have severed my employment/contract. Yipeeee
Then I could miss out on that wonderfull new addition [care of the lovely JPA ]- the loss of 50% of my flying pay during my PVR [which was not in my terms of service when I joined/signed up/signed on etc because I had paid my time and had been retained enough] oh forgot, they can change terms of service any time they like I just have to bend further forward and say 'OOhh just a little more sir'!
Sorry, thats been brewing for a few weeks now.
Ok, loyalty pills.....check.
Lets see ... Increase dose with time served ..... one loyalty pill per year plus an extra 5 per computer system roll out ..... thats .... oh lets call it 30 for capped cash amounts!
Oh, name a computer system that we have introduced in the last 30 years that works as required/requested?
LITS? ALFENS? SAMA? made my point!
Now where is that Bank managers number for overdaft facilities!

You wont have this problem as you are on neither...........;)

I did hear that if the April JPA pay run fails (planned for the 18th I believe) they will re-run the March pay run, so no need to plan a contingency. Can anyone confirm this?

Careful Ratty;

He may be on Submariners, Bomb Disposal or Crew Pay!!!:p
Or was that another thread!!!;)

More LAter;
'J' Bloke!!:cool:

Edited for Red Wine Speeling!!!

Pay day is last working day of the month. Out here the weekend is Thursday/Friday and banks are about to shut. No sign of any pay having gone in yet. May be just local incompetence though and nothing to do with JPA.

SARREMF - ASMA and SOMA. Run by operators for operators.

Thing about SOMA was its high overheads.

About 8 units each with a near full-time commissioned minder (Lyneham had a MACR - less secrets :) ). At Strike there was a full time software engineer and a FOFL with a sqn ldr minder. The course was a week (or maybe two) with annual refreshers, audits etc.

There was also an on-call hardware contractor on a 4-hour notice. Each station had a twin kit (except Lyneham) and two dedicated computer rooms.

If it crashed and you lost data it was probably down to ineptitude by the manager. I hold my hand up now although I blagged it at the time:)

The system was so good that the RNZAF actually wanted to buy it when we had finished with it:p

Ha anyone received notification of their Boarding School Allowance (Continuity of Eucation Allowance to give it its correct title now) for the Summer Term yet?

I am pretty sure I should have received notification of payment by now - I have certainly received the bills!

STH

STH

Ominous silence on that front where I am. Last year I received my notification of payment for the Summer term in mid February, but nothing this year! I went into PSF today, ignoring all the 'closed for JPA introduction' signs and asked directly. They are chasing it up for me, in terms of will it happen on time, and should have an answer tomorrow!!

Watch this space........

Thanks Biggus.

The School Bursar's pretty good about this sort of thing, but I suspect many schools will expect parents to pay irrespective of the RAF's cock-ups.

STH

STH

No CEA chit for me also. Spoke to handbrake house who told me they couldn't help! No shocks there. Spoke to JPAC who told me they couldn't discuss pay over the telephone without a password(not issued). I then got some sense out of the nice chap at allowances who said that it was being paid as a seperate pay run on 6 April. Hopefully he's right!

Regards

SS

My apologies, pay has gone in.

Further to worried emails from obviously concerned friends and colleagues, the real Stopstart has no children, secret or otherwise, and so cares not about boarding school allowance or CEA or whatever it's called.
Thank you. Carry on.
:hmm:

With regard to the CEA payments, anyone who submitted the legacy forms up to yesterday, will be happy to know that the JPAC are running the upload of the spreadsheet containing all the info on Monady 3rd.
Payment to Bank accounts in mid April.
See AFPAA site for JPA Bulletin on this matter later today.
Hope this quells the un-ease?

USA Rates
 

For Aeronut:

$10 for B'Fast
$52 for Lunch and Dinner

You can underspend on B and L and use more for D as long as you do not exceed $62. Don't forget IE of $17 per day recepts not needed for under $8 spend on IE, just log it and sign your own chit at end of det. Fun isn't it. Also, don't forget to envy your civil servant mates who do not have any capping, just asked to be sensible. Makes you feel like the scum of the Earth doesn't it? :(

Regards

Testing

I think you will find that it is the civil servants who made the rules for us in the first place. The civil service is about the same strength as all three services combined. A FoI question regarding the difference in amount paid to HM Forces in T&S and the civil service T&S would make interesting reading.

Don't forget the sensible civil servant is also allowed half a bottle of the Chateau d'Finest and remember the coffee and chocs.

The accommodation must however be booked within the grade limit through CHBS. Non-CHBS is limited to £55. If the accommodation is over the grade limit then the Budman can approve - not a jobsworth in the travel cell.

STH

I got a message from my allowances section yesterday that payment of boarding school allowance (or CEA or whatever it is called these days!!) is on track for payment in mid April!

This would seem to confirm Grimweasel's comment, he sounds far more informed on the matter than I am! So at least you have heard it now from more than one source - so what could possibly go wrong, go wrong, go wrong .................

So, you go out to dinner with your mates. You get a joint bill and then split the total, because it is so much easier. Can you photocopy the one receipt and produce that for audit, claiming an appropriate share? If so, what is to stop you making a few more copies and giving a spare to your mate who decided to eat in Burger King that night?

Then there is the subject of the tip for the nice waitress, especially in those countries where tipping is almost mandatory. Is an additional 10% on your bill total going to be acceptable?

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a system where they just gave you a reasonable sum of money for each day that you were away, and you could just spend it as you wished......?

Where we have shared a meal, say split 5-ways, the hotel usually puts it down as 'dinner' and that is that. Whether you had the sandwich andhe had the lobster matters not a jot - you both pay the £25 and each UIN bears the same weight.

Where the bill is itemised and you shell out an equal amount then that is a little more difficult. You can then 'ring' your items that come near the average.

Tips are permitted in the civil service. However the military receipts only have to be retained for 12 months! In the CS it is 3 years.