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Down 4 Reprogram 1st Apr 2006 17:12

BB

The way I read the JSP that governs capped actuals, the amount set for each meal includes an assumption that you will tip up to 10%. So in the UK dinner is something like £21, i.e. £19.09 for 3 courses and a drink + £1.91 tip!

D4R

Ginseng 1st Apr 2006 17:15

Banana Boy,

Provided that there is no service or cover charge already shown on the bill, it is acceptable to reclaim a tip actually paid, provided that in combination with the actual expenditure on the meal it does not exceed the capped limit. There is no absolute fixed percentage, since it is recognised that appropriate levels vary between countries due to cultural differences. Nevertheless, a guide level of 10% maximum is suggested to be the reasonable norm. Remember, this still has to come from within your capped limit, otherwise it is not a valid claim. See JSP 752 for details.

Biggus, Grimweasel,

Your information is essentially correct. A notice was placed on the AFPAA website on friday saying that the supplementary pay run for CEA would take place on 6th April, with payments reaching bank accounts by "mid-April". This is uncomfortable. In previous years, the due date for payment for this term was 6th April. My school will take the fees from my account by direct debit on 18th April, the first banking day after the Easter break. I do hope that "mid-April" is a worst-case estimate!

Regards

Ginseng

Banana Boy 1st Apr 2006 20:05

PN, D4R and Ginseng,

Thanks for replies. Have the honour to be deployed over the JPA April Fool's transition date and no JSPs to hand, so all information gratefully received.

Unsurprisingly, the standard of eating across all ranks has increased dramatically today. People are eating vegetables for the first time in days and some people have managed to scoff their way right up to (and beyond) the capped actuals limit! We may ward of scurvey with JPA, but it will come at the price of obesity.

BB

Pylot 2nd Apr 2006 09:18

JPA - Best thing since sliced bread
 
Bring it on - personnally I will be eating better than ever. Organic food only, 3 courses and half a bottle of something expensive and the devil take the capped limit, you can't get 3 courses for £20 in Blighty Copy of the menu and the company credit card. Anyone got a spare copy of the Michelin Guide? Bon Apetite!!

Down 4 Reprogram 2nd Apr 2006 13:08

Hmmm... Under the old rates rules, if the cost of a menu was more than the rate provided you could go onto actuals and provide copies of the menu as evidence.

However, for the new system if the capped actual is not enough to provide the required standard of meal, can you still spend more than the cap as long as you can evidence the need to?

D4R

ChezTanker 2nd Apr 2006 13:10


Originally Posted by Pylot
Bring it on - personnally I will be eating better than ever. Organic food only, 3 courses and half a bottle of something expensive and the devil take the capped limit, you can't get 3 courses for £20 in Blighty Copy of the menu and the company credit card. Anyone got a spare copy of the Michelin Guide? Bon Apetite!!

Probably worth reading the guidance carefully since this will not be the previous efforts at actuals. A half bottle of lafitte or Opus 1 will bring about the same response as 'lobster'. Bonne courage :)

Grimweasel 2nd Apr 2006 15:52

The people policing the Capped Actuals etc will be fellow RAF types. I have spoke to Chf Clrks who all know the score and are happy to authorise small 'drinks' with a meal as they have generally been there before. DCDS (Pers) said that he doesn't want this whole JPA programme to become an exercise in over zealous policing by right wing nazi types looking to hang everyone for going 5p over budget!!

As mentioned before, FSI will be retained by Lyn, BZN, and Northholt so there isn't much of an issue at the moment??

The best place to keep up to speed with all the issues on roll-out is the AFPAA website under Service Delivery Support Team/JPA operational bulletins.

The Rogue 3rd Apr 2006 06:43

588DKr for lunch and supper. I managed it on two courses!

BengOBoB 3rd Apr 2006 09:32

Disturbance......
 
Is it correct that the disturbance allowance has now been reduced for Officers?? Seeing as I've moved private to private I've never had my removals paid for and was relying on DA to pay for that ........:bored:

Pontius Navigator 3rd Apr 2006 10:19

BengoBob, hush your mouth.

DA has been greatly improved under JPA. Now all the singlies get DA and this is seen as a major benefit of the change.:)







of course there is no new money and it had to come from somewhere. Guess where.:}

Course as a CS the moves tend to be at request rather than forced so the allowance is only about £5k

BengOBoB 3rd Apr 2006 12:15

any idea on figures??:{

I know that as of last month the DA was about £1100.......

Pontius Navigator 3rd Apr 2006 13:00

No, all I know is that DA was a 'red card' entry on the brief to stn cdrs with discretionary permission to diseminate. Try handbrake house.

Talking of handbrake house, all change over the hill.

Admin Wg was disbanded on Saturday, now we go to Base Support Wing. Likewise now that JPA is fully up and running without problems, Personnel Services Flight has also undergone a name change. It is now known as PSF or Personnel Support Flight.




As this is a rumour network, how does 20% or even £800 sound :}

Axial Flo 3rd Apr 2006 13:52

Just to squash the rumours here are the new rates for Disturbance Allowance from 01 Apr 06 according to JSP752:
Privately Owned 1650
Privately Rented 969
SFA/SSFA 969
SLA/SSLA 75
Child Element per eligable child 130
I don't know what the old figures were so I can't say whether this is an improvement or not.
Flo

South Bound 3rd Apr 2006 14:02

That would be about a £200 drop for SFA....Hmmm, makes sense I suppose as redirecting mail, services, hotel bills while relocating, new curtains etc etc have all dropped in price over the past year...

I wonder if there will be much interest in the Tranche 3 redundancies...? (Anyone know why the announcement has been delayed until Wednesday?)

akula 3rd Apr 2006 17:41

Bengo,
I have recently moved private to private and had the removals paid for(and organised), so I think you might want a chat with your friendly allowances section:ok:

ALWAYS assume NEVER check

Pontius Navigator 3rd Apr 2006 17:49

Akula, with respect I suspect your post is irrelevant. If you had the move today, or were given the allowance today, then it is clear that is was organised and approved before JPA; it is therefore a legacy transaction.

If OTOH it was an agreement made today then apologies, unless of course Personnel Support Flight got it wrong.

akula 3rd Apr 2006 18:04

I could suggest that unless Bengo's posting and subsequent move took place after Friday:suspect: :suspect: (very efficient) then there may well be a modicum relevance.

ALWAYS assume NEVER check

Mr Wippy 3rd Apr 2006 18:04

dunno if its just 1st day blues, but oh my god its slow! and how many times did I get the dreaded page cannot be displayed !!!!!!!

nice to see the MOD getting ripped off again!:mad:

Pontius Navigator 3rd Apr 2006 21:31

Akula, sorry, you are quite right, I read that he was going to move and missed the point that he had moved.

FFP 4th Apr 2006 06:07


Originally Posted by Grimweasel
Re; rates, I believe that the main AT stations are still going to issue FSI for the forseable future as capped actuals are cleary unworkable for these staions and their crews.

I think you might be getting the term FSI and Capped Actuals mixed up.

AT crews carry a Flight Sub Imprest to pay for costs incurred such as fuel (where no such contract exists) and subsistence. The method for issuing money as of 1st April is the Capped Actual way, in which you are given the same money as you were before, but now you must be able to account for it with receipts or self certify if receipts are not available.

So AT crews are on capped actuals, with the money issued from an FSI.

Regards

FFP


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