Get an Air to Air missile with a bigger yield!. What was that thing that the Voodoo used in the '60s, anyone, anyone?? - was it a Genie??

Too many to list here, but that's OT !!
Woo hoo. So are all my adversaries.
I bet you don't.
And whilst you may think you can hide in a valley, you are totally predictable ... it's not rocket science to interpret raw radar cut off and translate the picture onto a map - navs have been trained in this for years ... Day VMC: do all the turning you want, I'll sit at 10-12k and watch... and wait for my shot. And I bet none of your crew can see me up at height.
Night: Much much harder for the FJ to VID, but we have goggs too ...
Up to 1-2nm (10-12k), vertically upwards with 90 deg aob??
ALL FJ and Rotary and ME are operator dependent. A non-point.
Nope. And I agree that any ht from 20' up to 30k+ puts a FJ in harm's way ... not a comfortable place to be at all.
Which we have had for 3 yrs ...so I guess that all bets have been off for a while?

I should add that helo-affil is some of the most enjoyable flying I've done as a FJ bloke ... great fun

Chaps, great reading but ..... are you not gettig slightly close to BEADWINDOW!
Lights touch paper. Stands back ...... evade go.
I did like the undo straps and run up and down the cabin!
F3 vs Sea King fighter affil mid 90's. 40 mins in, still no F3's - they are airborne and in the correct hemisphere but alas on the wrong island.
Debrief and rebrief for another go on next shift. Quote from their Boss. Anychance you could do it over Lafona? [ that gives the location away - for those that haven't been, Lafona (not sure on spelling), is the flatest most depressing area of the the Falklands, if we did it there [fighter affil], they would be able to see us from the runway even if we were 30 miles away! We politely refused and ran off to the hills. 20 mins in , radio call to F3's, were over here! Left a bit, thats it your looking at us!

Didn't go down well!

ASRAAM v RW
 

I think the F3s version of how to use ASRAAM leaves plenty of hope for the RW ME and mud movers yet!

Typhoon and ASRAAM on the other hand...

3.14,
Fights On! Joking aside, I totally agree with your last post, RW/FJ affil can be some of the best flying we get on our side-a 2v2 is an excellent tool for judging the capacity of the people you fly with! We do have to be careful about the Beadwindow issue, which is why I've tried to keep my answers vague(ish..) but I would just like to say that we train for a "Red" threat so we don't derive trg benefit for our crews if you fight "blue" and stay high lobbing AMRAAM/ASRAAM at us, but most affil sorties end up in horse-trading with you guys "dumbing down" some serials for our trg. You're also right-all fights are operator dependant, I'll take a timed out F2 for that no-brainer comment. Bottom line is that we don't teach our crews to fight the F3 per se, it's just a tool to get them thinking about the problems, and we do exploit the limitations of your jet as we would any adversary's.

That would be Lafonia.

Home of the worlds most southerly suspension bridge:8

Also the home of .99M, 50' beat ups:E

Any FJ mates fancy some FJ v Helo down in the East Anglia area please PM

Hi all
Was it not the case that Israeli Mirages or A-4s destroyed an assault force of Egyptian or Syrian Mi-8s, carrying commandos, over open desert, in one of their many wars.I recall reading that a lot of the Mi-8s either flew into the ground trying to evade or were blown down by the wake of the jets and that few were lost to actual cannon strikes, or were strafed after the crews had landed and bugged out.
regards
TDD:)

I think you're referring to N.Iraq in '94.

Not to defend the F15 guys, but those Blackhawks were fitted with the EISS external stores & tanks that have anhedral pylons AND were painted white instead of the typical camo-green...

Blue on Blue
 

One of the Pumas engaged by the SHars near Shag Cove crashed during evasion, it was later discovered to be overloaded with mortar rounds, IIRC the other 2 Pumas & A109 landed on and were promptly shot up. During GW1 a Hip was shot down by repeated gun attacks from a section of A10s (now that's just not nice), F15s used an LGB on a Hind as the kinetic range of the LGB outranged the Sidewinder. Of interest, both these kills were as a result of AWACS vectoring. During the Iran/Iraq war some particularly unsporting kills occurred, including Pheonix v Super Frelon and even Maverick v Super Frelon (it was sat on an oil platform at the time). Moral of the story, don't fly a Super Frelon! The Iranians claimed a number of MiG-21s shot down by Sea Cobra cannon fire and the Iraqis claimed, amongst others, an F4 shot down by a Sagger(!) fired by a Hind. When you actually start digging you find out that a lot of this stuff has gone on over the years; it's not just fun to do!!