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RCOV 2 ENG 22nd Feb 2006 12:29

I'm Not Going on any Det!!!!!
 
With the way things are going now, what with JPA, Capped Actuals, overstretch with both men and equipment, low morale, is it no wonder that so many people are so p155ed off and going off out the door?
What used to be the detachments overseas, the long hours working, but then a bit of R+R. This has all gone now. All that is left is heading East, trying to make the best of what equipment you are given, to try and help stabilise other countries,which by the way seems not much further forward considering Telic was nearly 3 yrs ago now!
It is time for people to start acting with their feet, which indeed they are! Why should we remain in the Forces when we receive absolutely no thanks or praise from both our own hierarchy high up in Westminster and the Govt?
We are paid the X Factor!! Imagine if we werent? Lucky us eh?!! It just about makes it worthwhile. Still wait for the new dets on capped actuals. The first person to say " Nah, I can't go, I have to pay my car insurance this month!" This will prove to be interesting! Why should you have to spend any of your own money doing your job? It doesn't matter where in the world you are. It should be noted that eg/ the american and aussie welfare policies compared to ours is simply embarassing!!! Lucky us though we still get our 20 min phonecard!!!
Is it any wonder in this day and age why so many people are so annoyed, and leaving? Its about time we started getting looked after a wee bit better!!
All P15H!!!
Minzastella! ( I've got a receipt for a very lge diet coke!):{ :yuk: :*

4Foxtrot 22nd Feb 2006 12:53


( I've got a receipt for a very lge diet coke!):{ :yuk: :*
As long as you keep that receipt for 12 months, everything will be fine.

Tonkenna 22nd Feb 2006 16:55

Ah... but at least the government is fully supportive of its military. Must be, I heard them on Radio 4 saying so:uhoh: :suspect: :hmm:

Tonks :cool:

Talking Radalt 22nd Feb 2006 19:38


Originally Posted by RCOV 2 ENG
The first person to say " Nah, I can't go, I have to pay my car insurance this month!"

Errrrrr..........say again, over? :confused: Which military unit did you join?

southside 22nd Feb 2006 20:27

I couldn't let this one go without a reply....here goes

With the way things are going now, what with JPA, Capped Actuals, overstretch with both men and equipment, low morale,(What low morale? Morale is particularly high in the FAA) is it no wonder that so many people are so p155ed off and going off out the door?(No they are not)
What used to be the detachments overseas, the long hours working, but then a bit of R+R. This has all gone now. (Nope, they are still there)All that is left is heading East, trying to make the best of what equipment you are given, to try and help stabilise other countries,which by the way seems not much further forward considering Telic was nearly 3 yrs ago now!
It is time for people to start acting with their feet, which indeed they are! (No they are not - PVR rates are the same as they have been for years)
Why should we remain in the Forces when we receive absolutely no thanks or praise from both our own hierarchy high up in Westminster and the Govt? (Now that simply is not true, you clearly didn't listen to the Governments speech last week)
We are paid the X Factor!! Imagine if we werent? Lucky us eh?!! It just about makes it worthwhile. Still wait for the new dets on capped actuals. The first person to say " Nah, I can't go, I have to pay my car insurance this month!" This will prove to be interesting! Why should you have to spend any of your own money doing your job? (Why spend your own money when you can spend the MOD's?)It doesn't matter where in the world you are. It should be noted that eg/ the american and aussie welfare policies compared to ours is simply embarassing!!! Lucky us though we still get our 20 min phonecard!!!
Is it any wonder in this day and age why so many people are so annoyed, and leaving? Its about time we started getting looked after a wee bit better!!
All P15H!!!
Minzastella! ( I've got a receipt for a very lge diet coke!)

Safety_Helmut 22nd Feb 2006 20:34

Troll Alert ! Southside is on the boards. Troll Alert !

BEagle 22nd Feb 2006 20:39

As is his alter ego 'Tourist'...

Ignore both.

Almost_done 22nd Feb 2006 20:44

Laughing Gas
 
Please can Southside send over some of the gas he is using to breathe over to the SH engineers as we need a lift. Oh sorry, I forgot we are too busy to use it, due to working for a living not floating about in the FAA Flying Club.

ZH875 22nd Feb 2006 20:48


What low morale? Morale is particularly high in the FAA
All due to everyone p1$$ing themselves laughing at Southside:bored:

L1A2 discharged 22nd Feb 2006 21:29

Low PVR Rate??
 
Why PVR now when the next redundancies are out on 3rd April (about 0900 hopefully). Application form complete :) and waiting to check the allocations:ok: , if not in the bracket :{ then its time to PVR, not before.

Safety_Helmut 22nd Feb 2006 21:33

Hope you have better luck than me L1, applied twice, turned down twice. Put my notice in instead.

S_H

sooms 23rd Feb 2006 10:02

I think that in the age of equal opportunities etc.. Anyone who does not fall into the tranche 3 redundancy field, or who has their application for redundancy turned down should be allowed to pvr and get the full financial package.

Oh, and anyone else who pvr's too:ok:

Daede1 23rd Feb 2006 14:57

Im not military (Nearly RAF Pilot but broke my leg a week after selection, and kind of went off the boil a bit), but its kind of worrying from the civvy side of the fence when we read that the best thing about being in the forces is the redundancy package.
S'shame, cost the majority of middle (Read quietly desperate) England is dead proud of the jobs you guys do, i for one would rather the 190 quid i spend on council tax - for a council that only collects my rubbish once every two weeks, and the last time i saw a police man was when he overtook me at a million miles an hour on the motorway - went on buying decent kit and training for you guys.
And im fed up of reading that american bases have pizza parlours etc etc. Im going to start a movement to get a pie and mash shop on every UK Military installation, including Porton Down.

JessTheDog 23rd Feb 2006 19:46


(No they are not - PVR rates are the same as they have been for years)
Not according to the AFPRB Report of 2006. They get some of the dots in the right place, but can't seem to join them....

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/6D265...b_rpt_2006.pdf


In general, the latest information suggests a worrying reverse of recent stable trends with an upturn in PVR application and exit rates during 2004-05 and into early 2005-06.

southside 23rd Feb 2006 22:55

Hey Im good at joining the dots. From that evidence it would appear that the PVR rates in the RAF are going down, the RN is also going down and the Army seems to be on some sort of see-saw ride.

As far as Ratings goes, its much the same. RN down, RAF down and Army, down and then up again.

Tigs2 24th Feb 2006 00:45

PVR rates are bound to be dropping because weve got tens of thousands of less people to actually PVR.

southside 24th Feb 2006 14:40

well, thats obvious. Of course PVR rates will drop when we have fewer people who are PVRing...

unkind43 24th Feb 2006 15:05

Do not forget that once warned for an operational tour, or whilst serving on an operational tour, you rights to PVR are removed. I think that must take about 40-50% of people out of the equation.

Almost_done 24th Feb 2006 15:06


Originally Posted by southside
well, thats obvious. Of course PVR rates will drop when we have fewer people

Fixed, there you go Southside

southside 24th Feb 2006 15:10

Im disappointed. 26 minutes. Not good fellas, not good.


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