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totalwar 16th Mar 2005 17:16

You guys seem to placing a lot of emphasis on the EMCON policy. However, back in the 70's n 80's we used to operate totally and strict emcon silent, particularly when conducting TAOPs. During some patrols we even had to remain in bed to maintain the silence...too noisy everyone walking about the ship. And in those days we didn't lose an aircraft due to it running out of fuel.

Bag Man 17th Mar 2005 06:24

totalwar

You make me giggle. What has the SOPs of the 70s and 80s got to do with the 21st (repeat 21st) century.

Use your grey matter on this one. TRAIN AS YOU EXPECT TO FIGHT. When we expected to fight in EMCON silence we would all train in EMCON silence (and make very few mistakes - which is what training is about). Don't know of any sane person that expects to fight in EMCON silence these days - L16 would be more of waste than the Merlin. Ever heard of a PPLI? It's useful for CID.

Are the Lynx community still training to find Krivaks using Orange Crop? NO (so I am told).

totalwar 17th Mar 2005 07:09


Are the Lynx community still training to find Krivaks using Orange Crop? NO (so I am told).
Yeah, we are actually. Well not really Krivaks, more like Udaloys and Sovremenny's. Why ? shouldn't we be?

Widger 17th Mar 2005 10:31

This is not fair....Bag and Pinger having a fight on at least 3 forums...don't be greedy chaps!

Duncan Bucket 17th Mar 2005 11:25

Widger

Sorry old bean, totalwar has admitted in a previous post to being a Lynx puke (and training to find Udaloys and Sovremennys using Orange Cr&p), and is therefore not a Pinger. Still fun to watch him and Bag Man sparring.

Back to thread topic though, if the ASaC is L16 fitted, why the fubar with the Lynx Mum's position?

totalwar 17th Mar 2005 11:32

What if the bag was tracking 2 L16 tracks and they then merged and crossed over and the computer tracked the wrong contact?

airborne_artist 17th Mar 2005 11:40


During some patrols we even had to remain in bed to maintain the silence...
Totalwar is clearly BuffHoon in disguise - no naval type would ever stay "in bed" to maintain silence - unless he was biting on the pillow ...

engineer(retard) 17th Mar 2005 12:03

And who was driving the boat if they were all in bed.

Widger 17th Mar 2005 13:23

Duncan Bucket,

I'm not so sure..in a previous post TW stated.

Hey...I work for a living...well if you can count flying one of Her Majesties best ASW platforms working...Nope, Im here....tucked up safe and sound in Kernow

So he must be a Merlin Pinger! Or is he just trying to duck and weave.


Computer says no!

Duncan Bucket 17th Mar 2005 13:32

Yes I spotted that too, but dismissed it as Chaff Distraction. Who knows, but his ramblings are still priceless. Funniest thing I heard this week is that on another thread someone accused him of missing out the nke from his name.........laughed so hard I nearly bought a round:ok:

totalwar 17th Mar 2005 14:12

Being safely tucked up in cornwall I can sit here and chuckle at my comrades. However, when I was on a Lynx flight things were very different.

ZH875 17th Mar 2005 14:24


when I was on a Lynx flight things were very different
I bet it was, but at least they knew who the Tw@t was

vecvechookattack 17th Mar 2005 14:33

who? you? when did you fly in a Lynx? Looking at your name you are likely to be a C-130 Loadmaster so maybe you should leave this thread to real aviators and go and count some blankets.

engineer(retard) 17th Mar 2005 14:38

"Being safely tucked up in cornwall"

He has gone back to bed again.

Duncan Bucket 17th Mar 2005 15:04


Being safely tucked up in cornwall I can sit here and chuckle at my comrades. However, when I was on a Lynx flight things were very different
Why? Was it not safe on a Lynx Flight?

You'll have to do better tan that H3F. There are actually very few ex Lynx blokes "safely tucked up in Cornwall", in fact, 6 that I can think of, very much doubt you are one of them.

vecvechookattack has a familiar tone too. Will we soon see the demise of Totalwar and the increase in boll$x from vvha?

Oggin Aviator 17th Mar 2005 16:18

Bickering
 
Chaps

We in the FAA are very proud of that fact. The last couple of pages are showing that we are lowering ourselves to the childish behaviour normally seen by the Crabs. It doesnt really matter who H3F is, or where he is, or what he flies or doesnt fly. He is entitled to an opinion and if you dont like what he says just ignore it - dont rise to the bait and make us all look like petty minded morons.

Back to the thread I say - last time I looked the Lynx wasnt fitted with JTIDS therefore there would not be a PPLI associated with that track. Also a PPLI will not cross over onto another track as it is platform specific. So totalwar's last but one post is not valid - it simply would not happen. Tha Bag may have an air track which they are pushing out over L16 and I think what he is trying to say that track identity between 2 tracks (both being reported over L16) has swapped in a crossing situation which I guess is a possibility (certainly is in the E2C).

Oggin

Bag Man 17th Mar 2005 16:27

Oggin

Let's wait for the BOI fella.

totalwar 17th Mar 2005 16:41

only 6 Lynx guys in Cornwall? I reckon there are at least double that, if not as close as 20.

Duncan Bucket 17th Mar 2005 17:41

Oggin


We in the FAA are very proud of that fact.
What fact?


dont rise to the bait and make us all look like petty minded morons
Why not? Isn't this site all about Rumour, conjecture, banter and even moronic petty mindedness. Stop taking yourself so seriously. If you're interested in the facts, read the signals and wait for the BOI findings, otherwise (as you already have) join in the supposition and guesswork based on rumours.

Oggin Aviator 17th Mar 2005 18:46

Bagman

I wasnt trying to say what happened - I havent got a scooby - All I was saying is that track identity can swap when automatic tracking is being used. Whether it happened in this case or whether not I dont know nor, to be honest, care - yet, ... as I am quite happy to wait for the BOI.

Duncan - proud of the fact that we are in the FAA. Read the signals - I wish! And again I havent the slightest clue about what happened to the Lynx (apart from the fact that it ditched because it ran out of petrol) or what was going on in any other platform at the time so I havent really joined in on the supposition. The GOO is a bloody long way from where I am at the moment so quite rightly I am not qualified to comment on what happened. If you guys want to slag each other off then go ahead, reminds me of happy hour in the datum before 705 went up north!


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