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mbga9pgf 27th Jul 2004 14:00

Boys and girls wait for tranche 2 of cuts.... Bufhoon mentioned something along the lines of "the option for the procurement of MR4 will rely upon successful testing flights"

so if I was BWoS, i would be asking,

What happens if Boscombe tests say its unflyable?

The Gorilla 27th Jul 2004 20:42

Mad Mark

Ahh yes the future for MRA4 is all rosy post Buffhoons cuts!! NOT!!

Let me see, 21 to 18 and now down to 12?? Mmm. A typical British "Creeping Cancellation"

And how successful has its first flight been then??

Hee hee.....

:ok:

Mad_Mark 27th Jul 2004 22:47

Gorilla, I was simply responding to your earlier post...


12 Jul 04 - cancellation date!!!!
As I said, 12 Jul has come and gone and MRA4 has not (some may say 'yet') been cancelled.

And as for those in power that seriously believe that we will be able to continue the current tasks (and indeed the rumoured increased number of tasks) with half the current fleet are out to lunch big time!

Mad Mark!!! :mad:

arfur-sixpence 28th Jul 2004 09:00

Dear God,

Please let the MR4 fly and be a success - if only to shut The Gorilla up for good!

The Gorilla 28th Jul 2004 15:36

I hope for all your sakes it DOES!! fly and is eventually accepted into service, for I can be unbearably smug when I am proven to be right!!!

Time my friends, will tell all!!!

:ok:

Spotting Bad Guys 28th Jul 2004 17:18

Ah, but didn't the actual wording of the Review say "about 12 aircraft".......

SBG

Unmissable 28th Jul 2004 20:13

I believe Buff said the MARITIME requirement could be met with about 12 aircraft. Therefore, if you can find another role then you could argue to keep the others. Or am I too much of an optimist.....my glass is half full.

Pontius Navigator 28th Jul 2004 21:25

How much is a Boeing 737-800 ERX MMA?

bangin0ut 28th Jul 2004 21:39

Unmissable, In response to your post they do have another role and they dont have enough airframes to carry out these tasks. Incidentally this includes very little of what the airframe was built to do in the first place, so how the crews are going to cope from next April is beyond me.

Still if it makes an accountants spreadsheet balance then it must be OK
:mad:

Sideshow Bob 29th Jul 2004 06:45

bangin0ut
We'll cope how we always cope, ignore the politicians and just get on with the job. Only, with less crews, we'll just have to spend a bit more time in the desert.

bangin0ut 29th Jul 2004 20:15

Sideshow

Thats the problem. Everyone will carry on and do a good job, as they always do. Trouble is, sooner or later something is going to have to give! Its the thing thats going to give that worries me:uhoh:

doubledolphins 30th Jul 2004 17:45

Dont know the cost of the 737 MMA (thats an MPA with more going for it.) But I do know that it will fly and it will enter service and IT is likely to be the "Only the only jet powered "MPA" in service."

Navaleye 3rd Aug 2004 13:39

With only 12 airframes actually being completed, the MRA4 will be more expensive than the Merlin. Why not ditch it and buy the 737 MMA instead. Plenty of C3s kicking about as well.

lasernigel 3rd Aug 2004 14:29

After a lot of searching and delving through MOD sites found this quote from Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup which I think sums up this governments attitude when they have to get a serving officer say what Buffoon couldn't say in his speech.

We will reduce the number of Nimrod MR2 aircraft from 21 to 16, reflecting a lower submarine threat to the UK at least, but acknowledging the Nimrod force’s wider capabilities. The requirement could in future be met by around 12 of the more capable Nimrod MRA4 although much work will be required with industry before a decision is reached.
.

How much work is the question which needs answering asap,if this lot have any credibility left.

pr00ne 3rd Aug 2004 15:57

Lasernigel,

I think you'll find that is a virtually word for word lift from what Hoon actually said when he was on his feet in the house making the statement on the 21st.

Strato Q 17th Aug 2004 02:52

A good source tells me Friday is the day

Gorilla - I guess you won't need to be so smug then;)

The Gorilla 17th Aug 2004 09:51

Friday eh?? I look forwards to seeing it in the national news then!!


I wish the flight test team good luck and a safe return.


TG

:ok:

The Gorilla 21st Aug 2004 14:46

Strato

Permission to be smug sir?

SMUG!!!!!!!

:p

:ok:

emitex 26th Aug 2004 09:22

A good source tells me it's today, probably around midday.

ORAC 26th Aug 2004 14:53

Well, did it?


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