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Old 23rd Jul 2003, 13:41
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Thumbs up Is Geoff Hoon finished?

Blair puts Hoon on spot with Kelly denial

Geoff Hoon was left politically isolated last night after Tony Blair refused to accept personal responsibility for naming David Kelly, the Government scientist who was found dead last week.
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What has this got to do with aviation?
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OOOOHH Piccky piccky!!

In case it has escaped your attention, half the threads on here are not aviation related!! Variety is the spice of life and it stops the anoraks from taking over!!

You wouldn't be a senior officer at the MOD would you??
Or perhaps just a misguided Hoon fan??

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Or perhaps the fact that Hoon is in the chain of command for the military - perhaps that makes it relevant?

To answer the thread's question - yup.

I think a small sweepstake is in order. Which of Cambell or Hoon will go first?

My bet is GH. He hasn't got a book ready for publication.
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...and he is making the most of his perks. Following the GP at Silverstone, he was at the palace yesterday for the garden party. And no, he wasn't the streaker!

At least he wasn't singing Beatles songs in China!
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singing Beatles songs
I think that should read destroying Beatles songs
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Let's just hope they don't replace him with Prescott
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Or Blunkett!

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I am sure you will be pleased to hear that Geoff visited Dr Kelly's family this afternoon.

Well that makes it all right then!

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It does seem to me highly insensitive at this time for Hoon to be visiting the family - unless he is confessing all and will resign later today.

Who knows what the next twist in this tale will be....
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At least John Reid will get the job he always wanted
(six ministerial jobs in twelve months or something).
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I've just found out that Mrs Kelly requested the meeting - so I take back my first comments about Hoon.
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Wink

Hopefully it won't be too long before he's replaced (along with the rest) by a conservative.
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Ah yes Spud, after all, Portaloo was such a great SofS. He was the b*$t4rd that did the deal over quarters and screwed us royally just to try to buy the election. I really don't hold Buff in any more contempt than any of the previous SofS of the last 15 years and less than some of them.
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Yes and although it is reported Mrs Kelly requested the visit, HE
took along a civil servant note taker!!

The last sad actions of a deluded politician I HOPE!!
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For what it is worth, I think that Campbell will take the rap because the blame for leaking the name has to stop somewhere near No.10.

Don't forget ... you heard it here first.
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In response to "albert_arkwright" the link is MoD obstinacy in the Chinook affair, and even though Hoon was not directly involved initially, he refuses to accept any blame via MoD.
Perhaps his demise will go some slight way to opening the door to MoD becoming amenable to accepting that there is doubt as to the absolute guilt they insist exists in this sad affair.

Hoon is shaken by visit to Kelly widow
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It may or not be true that Mrs Kelly "requested" the visit. However, I find it extraordinary that the MOD should insist that such a visit is no more than would be provided for bereaved families of military personnel. Apart from his appearance(s) at Brize, when the coffins were brought back, does anyone know of any personal visit Hoon has made to any other bereaved family?
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When I go on this AVIATION website I do not expect to read The Daily Fail/Torygraph ranters opinions. Whoever replaces Hoon it will not be from the shower of S.... that ran this country in to the ground during the 80's. Lets not forget you are not going fix in six years what it took 18 years to break!
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Take a reality check, hangar 35! You cannot REALLY saying that things were rosy 24 years ago? If you are, then you probably aren't old enough to remember how extreme inflation ruined the retirement of a complete generation.

What the present incumbents of No 10/11 have done is to hang on to the reasonable economic position bequeathed to them 6 years ago. What else they have acheived is b*gg*r all except to devalue even further the low regard most people hold politicians in.

This present, awful crisis will, hopefully, become the last gasp of some of the most unspeakably dreadful people to infest public life in my lifetime.

RIP Dr Kelly.
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