Blues at Brize II
G Fiend, you are absolutely correct.
Tocsin, you too,
Deliverance, aircrew are not the only ones with secondary duties, as to groundcrew, fixing the valiant attempt by aircrew to break everything they touch, then say 'it wasn't me', gets in the way of our secondary duties. But we do not have the 'out of crew duty hours' excuse to be lazy.
Would you object to engineering officers wearing sweaty overalls in the mess, sitting next to a sweaty gro bag. No, thought not, they do not have a winged brevet to fly.
Tocsin, you too,
Deliverance, aircrew are not the only ones with secondary duties, as to groundcrew, fixing the valiant attempt by aircrew to break everything they touch, then say 'it wasn't me', gets in the way of our secondary duties. But we do not have the 'out of crew duty hours' excuse to be lazy.
Would you object to engineering officers wearing sweaty overalls in the mess, sitting next to a sweaty gro bag. No, thought not, they do not have a winged brevet to fly.
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Aren't aircrew just about the ONLY people who are wearing "uniform" in the RAF at the moment? What with half a dozen different types of jumper, a smattering of jackets, long-sleeve shirts (with 2 pockets), long-sleeve shirts (with 1 pocket), short-sleeve shirts, RAF blue, Akrotiri tailors' version of blue, Soldier 95 etc etc, the rest of you are a long way from being uniform!
Give or take the various shades of green doing the rounds at the moment, at least we all look vaguely alike! And I don't get asked if I think it's the alternator or the spark plugs (a la man from the RAC) when I pop into the co-op for some well-earned post-flight refreshments!
Give or take the various shades of green doing the rounds at the moment, at least we all look vaguely alike! And I don't get asked if I think it's the alternator or the spark plugs (a la man from the RAC) when I pop into the co-op for some well-earned post-flight refreshments!
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I quite like seeing a load of fat geezers in their all-in-ones. Long may it remain.
PS. In Canada, even the air traffikers wear flying suits to go to work. How bizzare is that?
PS. In Canada, even the air traffikers wear flying suits to go to work. How bizzare is that?
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As a truckie I'd rather not have to wear blues or a gro-bag, CS95/dessies as appropriate are far more comfortable, flexible, practical especially when your job involves working on the ground and in the air with definitely no time to change, - drawbacks? confuses US groundcrew when crew get of and nobody in a flight-suit, saves money, er......
I don,t need somthing tested to 10 G,covered in zips and velcro to do my job nor do I need somthing else specially developed, stores have got most things, getting it is another story sometimes, silly me I forgot, that's why their not called 'Issues'..
I don,t need somthing tested to 10 G,covered in zips and velcro to do my job nor do I need somthing else specially developed, stores have got most things, getting it is another story sometimes, silly me I forgot, that's why their not called 'Issues'..
Is it me, or have we had this conversation before? Come on guys, chill out! 3 pages of aircrew vs blunty warfare? Boring, change the channel, flip the disk etc etc. Are some people really so bored that all they have to do with their time is think how they can complain about aircrew wearing grow bags??? Well okay, there's always the incumbants of handbrake house- but apart from them?? Please note the following:
1. Growbags are uniform. Ask your local friendly SWO
2. If aircrew want to wear them, then let them. It's their uniform! Besides, as previously stated, what flypro is ever cast in stone?
3. Personally, whenever I see you guys wearing your bags I'm reminded what CinC Home Command said to our (at the time) 2 year old daughter whilst in a family happy hour. "Oh look, all those men are wearing their sleep suits as well!" Classic!!!
1. Growbags are uniform. Ask your local friendly SWO
2. If aircrew want to wear them, then let them. It's their uniform! Besides, as previously stated, what flypro is ever cast in stone?
3. Personally, whenever I see you guys wearing your bags I'm reminded what CinC Home Command said to our (at the time) 2 year old daughter whilst in a family happy hour. "Oh look, all those men are wearing their sleep suits as well!" Classic!!!
If pilots wear their grobags just in case they may have to fly, could any of you please explain why I met a IV Sqn Pilot, wearing his grobag, in a hospital waiting room in Peterborough today. What aircraft was he going to be put in at short notice.
Mind you, the comments from the civilians in the hospital were fun, from 'what a To$$er' to 'Scruffy barsteward'.
Long may the cream be proud and advertise their wings.
Mind you, the comments from the civilians in the hospital were fun, from 'what a To$$er' to 'Scruffy barsteward'.
Long may the cream be proud and advertise their wings.
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ZH,
"Long may the cream be proud and advertise their wings"
"Long may the blunt be proud to advertise their envy"
We may work on the same type fella but we are worlds apart when it comes to the job.
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"Long may the cream be proud and advertise their wings"
"Long may the blunt be proud to advertise their envy"
We may work on the same type fella but we are worlds apart when it comes to the job.
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Arty, the Pilot concerned was not there to visit any family member, he booked himself in at the reception desk. I may be a tw@t, but I object to being called ignorant.
Always_etc, I would like to remind you of two things.
1. Not all blunties want to fly ( I fix the things and therfore know why)
2. The automatic pilot was invented in 1943 or thereabouts, - The automatic groundcrew has still to be invented.
Finally, I agree about being worlds apart when it comes to the job. Blunties are happy to do it without wishing to pose to the general public.
Whatever your pursuasion, be it grobag or blues, safe flying, and safe operations to all
Always_etc, I would like to remind you of two things.
1. Not all blunties want to fly ( I fix the things and therfore know why)
2. The automatic pilot was invented in 1943 or thereabouts, - The automatic groundcrew has still to be invented.
Finally, I agree about being worlds apart when it comes to the job. Blunties are happy to do it without wishing to pose to the general public.
Whatever your pursuasion, be it grobag or blues, safe flying, and safe operations to all
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(Big Sigh)
Military Aircrew
A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here.
A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here.
Rising to the bait
Ok Salad Dodger. You win. I shall find another site to look at and leave you in a little corner of your very small and blinkered world where you can play with your little stick all by yourself.
May your next pleasure flight be cancelled at the last minute due to unserviceability.
To all other members of Pprune, I apologise for the stick holders who are proud to be ignorant.
Fly safe, Happy landings and farewell
May your next pleasure flight be cancelled at the last minute due to unserviceability.
To all other members of Pprune, I apologise for the stick holders who are proud to be ignorant.
Fly safe, Happy landings and farewell
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I'm all for Aircrew wearing uniform off base. It's a known fact that dissident terrorist groups are still active and that they always go for the easy targets. A few years ago it was our people, out in the Rhine with their BFG plates and uniform hanging in the back of cars, who were cowardly murdered. We even had some poor souls shot on train station platforms because of Service identifiable bags.
If folk continue to wear uniform outside while I continue to change in to civvies, that makes me feel pretty safe from being the target of any terrorist attack - thanks to our brave, but ignorant, aircrew colleagues. It's your choice as I see it, just don't go whining to the Old Bill when you meet Paddy face on.
If folk continue to wear uniform outside while I continue to change in to civvies, that makes me feel pretty safe from being the target of any terrorist attack - thanks to our brave, but ignorant, aircrew colleagues. It's your choice as I see it, just don't go whining to the Old Bill when you meet Paddy face on.
Last edited by Ralf Wiggum; 27th Jun 2003 at 22:15.
By skulking around in 'mufti' outside the base rather than wearing your uniform (be it No 14 dress or blunty-blue), you have in effect handed a partial victory to 'Paddy' as you call him.
Heed the requirements of the current security state and dress accordingly, I would suggest.
Heed the requirements of the current security state and dress accordingly, I would suggest.
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I've worn my blues to an appointment at Peterborough, cos it's my uniform.
The guy from IV wore his flying suit to an appointment at Peterborough, cos it's his uniform.
As far as I'm aware there's no issue at Cottesmore regarding ground branches having whinges about pilots wearing their flying suit throughout the day as IT'S THEIR UNIFORM!!!
The guy from IV wore his flying suit to an appointment at Peterborough, cos it's his uniform.
As far as I'm aware there's no issue at Cottesmore regarding ground branches having whinges about pilots wearing their flying suit throughout the day as IT'S THEIR UNIFORM!!!
