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Saw this on ARSSE:
http://www.arsse.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb1...num=1049918196
I would love to know the story behind it.
http://www.arsse.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb1...num=1049918196
I would love to know the story behind it.
Happens when you get the sequence of Zigs and Zags all out of whack! The collary might be....Even bad guys have good days!
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Can't quite get my head around the ballistics of these photos, and, although no expert, I do have experience in shooting up an old Canberra with small arms and then practicing BDR on it :
a) Most of the damage seems to be caused by smallish rounds of different calibre and there appears to be very little shrapnel damage apart from on the engine casing.
b) Views are all from the stb side, stb outer rear fuselage shows entry wounds and no exit wounds. Stb inner fin also shows entry wounds and no exit wounds. Also most wounds have been inflicted almost perpendicularly. Where would the assailant been in relation to the aircraft?
c) Entry wounds on the fuselage are very tightly grouped in a line, now I know the Warthog isn't exactly supersonic but it would have to have been taxying to get that tight a line..... or do the Iraqis have a weapon with such a rate of fire that it could do that to a jet flying at 200 kts? A full belt of GPMG against a stationary Canberra doesn't do this much damage!
If the photos are pukka then hats of to the young lady she has my full admiration.
If not, then we've found where Comical Ali has found his next job.
a) Most of the damage seems to be caused by smallish rounds of different calibre and there appears to be very little shrapnel damage apart from on the engine casing.
b) Views are all from the stb side, stb outer rear fuselage shows entry wounds and no exit wounds. Stb inner fin also shows entry wounds and no exit wounds. Also most wounds have been inflicted almost perpendicularly. Where would the assailant been in relation to the aircraft?
c) Entry wounds on the fuselage are very tightly grouped in a line, now I know the Warthog isn't exactly supersonic but it would have to have been taxying to get that tight a line..... or do the Iraqis have a weapon with such a rate of fire that it could do that to a jet flying at 200 kts? A full belt of GPMG against a stationary Canberra doesn't do this much damage!
If the photos are pukka then hats of to the young lady she has my full admiration.
If not, then we've found where Comical Ali has found his next job.
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I am having a great deal of difficulty understanding how this damage could have happened while the A10 was airborne. What kind of weapon(s), fired by whom, and from where?
After an excellent landing you can use the airplane again!
After an excellent landing you can use the airplane again!
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Probably a ZSU-23-4, who didn`t apply enough lead,luckily!
However,a few empty Coke cans in the tailplane,and a few rolls of Speed-tape and it`ll be ready for the next wave- after tea and medals,no doubt!!
However,a few empty Coke cans in the tailplane,and a few rolls of Speed-tape and it`ll be ready for the next wave- after tea and medals,no doubt!!
Crikey!
Who ever said slow is bad? One knot more....and the Kodak moment would have been done by the Iraqi's!
Who ever said slow is bad? One knot more....and the Kodak moment would have been done by the Iraqi's!
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Absolute dead ringer frag pattern from a Strela 1 or 2 (SA 7 or 14/16 both in Iraq..see Janes)..like the French Etendard in the FRY. Who said Shilka..do me a favour...23mm would leave holes larger than those in Gordon Browns budget
Makes sense as well..fired from below..tail chaser..impact or proximity fuse..engines shielded by T -Box tail plane arrangement..minimal damage to JPT....you know it makes sense..buy septic
Makes sense as well..fired from below..tail chaser..impact or proximity fuse..engines shielded by T -Box tail plane arrangement..minimal damage to JPT....you know it makes sense..buy septic
According to the reports linked below, she had just provided air support for some ground troops in Baghdad. As she was leaving the area, she encountered a substantial amount (obviously!) of enemy fire.
The hydraulic flight control systems were completely shot (literally and figuratively), and the aircraft initially didn't respond to any contol input. But, she switched to manual flight controls, recovered the aircraft, and flew back to safe territory. Took about an hour (including controllability checks, etc.) to get back -- Well done!
Here's a link to more information (scroll down to Wednesday, April 9th, Tuesday, April 8th, and Monday, April 7th): http://www.a-10.org
The hydraulic flight control systems were completely shot (literally and figuratively), and the aircraft initially didn't respond to any contol input. But, she switched to manual flight controls, recovered the aircraft, and flew back to safe territory. Took about an hour (including controllability checks, etc.) to get back -- Well done!
Here's a link to more information (scroll down to Wednesday, April 9th, Tuesday, April 8th, and Monday, April 7th): http://www.a-10.org
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I think Muff Coupling has it (I too saw the Froggy Etendard in the shed). SAM/MANPAD proximity frag job (the bang bit packed with ball bearings?). She got it/her back, nice one. Mind you, A-10's are built like external brick plumbed facilities and to think they keep trying to retire them.
Got to be an SA7. However, the Warthog is designed to take that sort of punishment. In fact, there's something odd about designing an aeroplane to take hits - I'd rather design them to avoid the problem.
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Here, here M/B. Anyone remember the Israeli AF solution to heat-seeking threats in the 70s? They extended the jetpipes of their A-4s and others with what looked like 10 feet of galvanised dustbin. This put the heat source well back so that the shrapnel from the SAMs/AAMs missed the important bits. Smart. 
