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The last time I was at Incirlik, political correctness had been taken to new heights of lunatic stupidity by the colonial cousins. For example the phrases:
"Heads up"
"Head to head"
"Head sector"
"Out of the box"
were all deemed to be offensive to wimmin. Curiously the word 'Bush' was acceptable....
B£oody nonsense
; can't even call a spade a spade nowadays, it's a 'trenching tool'. That is if 'trench' and 'tool' are OK.....
"Heads up"
"Head to head"
"Head sector"
"Out of the box"
were all deemed to be offensive to wimmin. Curiously the word 'Bush' was acceptable....
B£oody nonsense
; can't even call a spade a spade nowadays, it's a 'trenching tool'. That is if 'trench' and 'tool' are OK.....
FEBA VMT for answering SUD's comments, I really wanted to but truly could not be bothered. I have talked to Tim recently and support his his decision 100%. You have to know the man to understand how he conducts business. A firmer or fairer man I have yet to meet.
SUD VMT for your comments, but I really think you should get out more. I dont want to sound rude but if you truly cannot see how PC is affecting HM Forces then you truly are a CGS in the making. I did, very recently for the same reasons, and resigned a Regular Commission after 34 years man and boy. Please, lets not turn this into a slanging match because these days I get my fun from reading the Military Forum and only get the urge to write very occasionally. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and me, mine. Having lefts bits of me over the world whilst serving with Tim I feel totally qualified to support him.
SUD VMT for your comments, but I really think you should get out more. I dont want to sound rude but if you truly cannot see how PC is affecting HM Forces then you truly are a CGS in the making. I did, very recently for the same reasons, and resigned a Regular Commission after 34 years man and boy. Please, lets not turn this into a slanging match because these days I get my fun from reading the Military Forum and only get the urge to write very occasionally. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and me, mine. Having lefts bits of me over the world whilst serving with Tim I feel totally qualified to support him.
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I appreciate your concerns about nazism, however I'm not suggesting anything radical here, just observations. Without wishing to be rude I have to echo Mostafa's comments, smell the morning coffee mate.
PC must, by its very definition, defeat itself, trouble is it's a lot like cancer, an awful lot of good cells have to go in order to get the bad ones.
Well done Col Tim for raising the issue, you have my full support.
FEBA
(Durrington are they still selling that horrible Gibbs beer down there?)
I appreciate your concerns about nazism, however I'm not suggesting anything radical here, just observations. Without wishing to be rude I have to echo Mostafa's comments, smell the morning coffee mate.
PC must, by its very definition, defeat itself, trouble is it's a lot like cancer, an awful lot of good cells have to go in order to get the bad ones.
Well done Col Tim for raising the issue, you have my full support.
FEBA
(Durrington are they still selling that horrible Gibbs beer down there?)
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Thanks for your assurance. I'm not so naive as to believe PC doesn't exist or that it doesn't occasionally lead to absurdities. We are simply at odds as to its prevalence and the gravity of its negative effects.
All the best
Scud
P.S. When I read these sort of interminable pi$$ing contest threads, I always swear I'll never get into one. Ho hum.
Thanks for your assurance. I'm not so naive as to believe PC doesn't exist or that it doesn't occasionally lead to absurdities. We are simply at odds as to its prevalence and the gravity of its negative effects.
All the best
Scud
P.S. When I read these sort of interminable pi$$ing contest threads, I always swear I'll never get into one. Ho hum.
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I read and very much enjoyed Clark's diaries (Pt 1) while he was still alive and kicking. He was a bright, lovable and vain old rogue and the sort of person you'd love to have round to dinner, but probably wouldn't want as your constituency MP. He was, of course, a vociferous advocate of animal rights and banned hunting on his land. One man's political correctness is another man's personal conviction.
Is James (his son) still in the AAC, I wonder?
Is James (his son) still in the AAC, I wonder?
A SUD, me and you again, lets not argue eh. You are right, the ****** was a rascal but a rascal that had plenty of flair, something truly missing from most modern MP's. I had the pleasure of flying him a couple of times. His son was never in the Army so please dont believe what I think you have read in his diaries, his son was an average joe in the aircraft, but to my knowledge, at that time had never captained an aircraft. He might have by now though!!
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What ever the merits of the guy does anyone in here believe that a word he has said will REALLY change the price of fish
More often than not his verbage, and if uttered by "other ranks" as proved by countless retorts on various other threads in here, is seen as nothing more than "whinging".
It's my honest opinion that if we had more top people like him , who strove onwards and upwards, rather than banging out, we would eventuall oust the to@@ers at the top and end up with a far better outfit.........silly naieve old me. But, call me a cynic if you like, but you have to wonder if he has had a much much better offer from "civie street" to throw his hat in so to speak. If I was a betting man, which I'm not
, I think my mortgage against him ever being on the dole would be a pretty safe bet.
However good luck to the fella and I sincerley hope he makes the most out of his notiriety ...........how long before his book comes out I wonder
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
More often than not his verbage, and if uttered by "other ranks" as proved by countless retorts on various other threads in here, is seen as nothing more than "whinging".
It's my honest opinion that if we had more top people like him , who strove onwards and upwards, rather than banging out, we would eventuall oust the to@@ers at the top and end up with a far better outfit.........silly naieve old me. But, call me a cynic if you like, but you have to wonder if he has had a much much better offer from "civie street" to throw his hat in so to speak. If I was a betting man, which I'm not
, I think my mortgage against him ever being on the dole would be a pretty safe bet.However good luck to the fella and I sincerley hope he makes the most out of his notiriety
...........how long before his book comes out I wonderall spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Strange that. In his entry for 21 July 1990, Clark tells of being taken in a Gazelle from Saltwood to Middle Wallop and back, by James and his "co-pilot" Staff Sergeant Pengelly. Presumably Pengelly was the ac Cdr, but Clark mentions James being "at the controls" and doing some fancy flying. From what you say, it would appear Clark took quite a bit of poetic licence!
Strange that. In his entry for 21 July 1990, Clark tells of being taken in a Gazelle from Saltwood to Middle Wallop and back, by James and his "co-pilot" Staff Sergeant Pengelly. Presumably Pengelly was the ac Cdr, but Clark mentions James being "at the controls" and doing some fancy flying. From what you say, it would appear Clark took quite a bit of poetic licence!
No names No Pack drill eh!!! All I can tell you is, he never even sent him a copy of the book and to add salt (pardon the pun) to the wound he spelt his bleedin name wrong. In those wonderful days there was only one pilot.
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If these allegations have been proven to be untrue, one has to wonder what the motive was for the people who put this to print.
Its a sad state of affairs when there is one name in particular that will be remembered from this whole conflict, had his name tarnished by the newspaper that was hell bent on trying to sway public opinion to oppose the war, did they hope that by trying to ruin a good man that the public would think that the Sunday Mail was right all along?
Its a sad state of affairs when there is one name in particular that will be remembered from this whole conflict, had his name tarnished by the newspaper that was hell bent on trying to sway public opinion to oppose the war, did they hope that by trying to ruin a good man that the public would think that the Sunday Mail was right all along?
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Confused?!?
Great guy, superb pilot and instructor and a very good soldier now flying AH in Africa.
This isn't 'kidder' is it?
Not HIM is it?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ghlight=kidder
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Well, That seemed to have killed this thread then. 
