The Rt Hon (?) George Galloway MP (Kelvin)
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The Rt Hon (?) George Galloway MP (Kelvin)
Any takers for their views on "Gorgeous George" Galloway and his latest self seeking stunt ? I understand he has been calling for the Arab Armies to take up arms against our "packs of wolves" who are currently invading Irag and "slaughtering the innocent Iraqi people."
This little s£*t has been cavorting with Gaddafi, the PLO and Saddam for years, clearly in awe of the kind of power that eludes him in a democratic society. Through history we've lost countless good men in action to allow people the freedom of speech and action taken for granted in the UK now but Galloway has surely gone too far.
I'd like a word with you George.
This little s£*t has been cavorting with Gaddafi, the PLO and Saddam for years, clearly in awe of the kind of power that eludes him in a democratic society. Through history we've lost countless good men in action to allow people the freedom of speech and action taken for granted in the UK now but Galloway has surely gone too far.
I'd like a word with you George.
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Extract from the Guardian(1/4):
"Mr Galloway insisted today that he stood by all of his comments, arguing that the war was illegal and urging British soldiers to refuse to obey what were "illegal orders".
"The wolves are Bush and Blair, not the soldiers. The soldiers are lions led by donkeys, sent to kill and be killed.
"As for being a traitor, the people who have betrayed this country are those who have sold it to a foreign power and who have been the miserable surrogates of a bigger power for reasons very few people in Britain can understand," he said.
The MP denied that his interview amounted to incitement for Arabs to kill British troops.
He added: "The best thing British troops can do is to refuse to obey illegal orders."
His comments were condemned by the armed forces minister Adam Ingram.
"Are there no depths to which George Galloway will not sink?" he said.
"I am sure such disgraceful comments will be rightly condemned the length and breadth of this country," Mr Ingram told the Sun."
"Mr Galloway insisted today that he stood by all of his comments, arguing that the war was illegal and urging British soldiers to refuse to obey what were "illegal orders".
"The wolves are Bush and Blair, not the soldiers. The soldiers are lions led by donkeys, sent to kill and be killed.
"As for being a traitor, the people who have betrayed this country are those who have sold it to a foreign power and who have been the miserable surrogates of a bigger power for reasons very few people in Britain can understand," he said.
The MP denied that his interview amounted to incitement for Arabs to kill British troops.
He added: "The best thing British troops can do is to refuse to obey illegal orders."
His comments were condemned by the armed forces minister Adam Ingram.
"Are there no depths to which George Galloway will not sink?" he said.
"I am sure such disgraceful comments will be rightly condemned the length and breadth of this country," Mr Ingram told the Sun."
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Alas, Galloway's freedom to spread his poison is one of the downsides of democracy, and their is nothing we can do about it.
The BBC trot him out fairly frequently so, as they would undoubtedly claim, to present 'balance in the debate'. However, whenever he is interviewed, Galloway's rants are so one-sided and virulent as to suggest he is mentally unbalanced. He seems quite incapable of seeing another's point of view; so in that regard he does his cause little good.
I am surprised that the good people of Glasgow should have as one of their MPs this long-term apologist for, and devotee of, one of the world's most evil men. Old George is so perverse that, were Hitler still around, I suspect he would be a big fan of that tyrant as well.
The BBC trot him out fairly frequently so, as they would undoubtedly claim, to present 'balance in the debate'. However, whenever he is interviewed, Galloway's rants are so one-sided and virulent as to suggest he is mentally unbalanced. He seems quite incapable of seeing another's point of view; so in that regard he does his cause little good.
I am surprised that the good people of Glasgow should have as one of their MPs this long-term apologist for, and devotee of, one of the world's most evil men. Old George is so perverse that, were Hitler still around, I suspect he would be a big fan of that tyrant as well.
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Don't know about treason in itself, but wasn't that supposed London-based cleric recently jailed for inciting others to commit potentially law-breaking acts against the state? In this context, is there a significant difference between he and Galloway?
Expelled from the parliamentary Labour Party, banned from being an MP, and interned in an open prison for the duration of the war - these would seem to me to be sensible steps. If those with a more PC nature disagree, then how about the softer option of a free week fact-finding vacation in a Kuwait 5-star, on the same floor as a section of 42 Commando on pre-arranged R&R.
Expelled from the parliamentary Labour Party, banned from being an MP, and interned in an open prison for the duration of the war - these would seem to me to be sensible steps. If those with a more PC nature disagree, then how about the softer option of a free week fact-finding vacation in a Kuwait 5-star, on the same floor as a section of 42 Commando on pre-arranged R&R.
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The cleric was insighting moslems to kill non-moslems and especially Jews so that they could get to heaven. Galloway is attempting to incite soldiers to lay down their arms.
I agree though, do him for Treason and fling him out of Parliament.
I agree though, do him for Treason and fling him out of Parliament.
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Further to my previous thread. BBC Radio 2 has just finished (1245 hrs) giving Galloway yet another platform to air his extraordinary views. I often wonder what agenda the BBC is pursuing!!
We were told by Jeremy Vine, the presenter, that listeners were, apparently, 4 to one against Galloway; given this, an interesting aspect to emerge was that only 9 anti-Galloway but 5 pro-Galloway responds were broadcast - balance?!
Some pro-Galloway respondees said that the Scots were always the first to be sent into battle as they were seen by the rich (presumably for rich, read English) as poor and cannon fodder. Oh dear; at times like this the nuts begin to crawl out from the cracks !!
We were told by Jeremy Vine, the presenter, that listeners were, apparently, 4 to one against Galloway; given this, an interesting aspect to emerge was that only 9 anti-Galloway but 5 pro-Galloway responds were broadcast - balance?!
Some pro-Galloway respondees said that the Scots were always the first to be sent into battle as they were seen by the rich (presumably for rich, read English) as poor and cannon fodder. Oh dear; at times like this the nuts begin to crawl out from the cracks !!
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As a Scot, in the Middle East just now, I am ashamed that Galloway panders to the fanatical fringe of Islamic societyand gives succour to a tyrant. Where was his righteous indignation when Saddam was gassing 5000 people in Halabja, slaughtering Iranians and torturing and killing hundreds of Kuwaitis in 1990/1991. Saddam has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and other moslems in his time.
Galloway's only agenda has always been self promotion but he is a rather lacklustre politician with a " colourful" past as far as the media is concerned, therefore he has to be "controversial" to at least try to remain in his precious limelight.
He conveniently forgets that his Russian heroes supplied 70% of Saddam's weaponry and that the French supplied maybe 15% together with a nuclear capability at Osirak which the Israelis malletted beautifully around 1981.
Galloway's only agenda has always been self promotion but he is a rather lacklustre politician with a " colourful" past as far as the media is concerned, therefore he has to be "controversial" to at least try to remain in his precious limelight.
He conveniently forgets that his Russian heroes supplied 70% of Saddam's weaponry and that the French supplied maybe 15% together with a nuclear capability at Osirak which the Israelis malletted beautifully around 1981.
The man is a fool, and his main motivation is that he has had the opportunity to pretend that he is important on the grand scale. By the way, he's not a Rt Hon (not a member of the Privy Council) and very unlikely to be, (unless you address him on the floor of the Commons, when all members are addressed as such)
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Thanks Steamchicken,
I thought there might have been some protocol involved in the title of "Rt Hon" hence my ? mark. I've certainly never seen him earn the title in my long suffering experience as a Scottish voter.
I understand that he has now been on Sky spouting his rubbish there too. I hope the good people of Kelvinside, who will support the forces, will demonstrate their distaste for this sneering little attention seeking sycophant. He apparently called the media "guttersnipes" - well, it takes one I suppose.
I thought there might have been some protocol involved in the title of "Rt Hon" hence my ? mark. I've certainly never seen him earn the title in my long suffering experience as a Scottish voter.
I understand that he has now been on Sky spouting his rubbish there too. I hope the good people of Kelvinside, who will support the forces, will demonstrate their distaste for this sneering little attention seeking sycophant. He apparently called the media "guttersnipes" - well, it takes one I suppose.
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Had the Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) 5 live on in the wagon this morning on the way to EGLL, and Mr Galloway was on there.
He is a disgrace and he should not be allowed to say the things he has come out with in a time of war. It his hight time that during times of war Members of Parliament should be bound by the same rules as to what they can say, opinions included, about the war. Then we wouldnt have the likes of Galloway and Cook damaging the morale of our troops.
I was shocked by his comments, particularly when he said that, and I cant quote his exact words as I was concentrating on traffic near the M1 "British soldiers fighting in Iraq will have to stand trial for war crimes" and that "the only people fighting legally in Iraq are the Iraqi's".
I hope that when the war is over and we need some experienced politicians to show the way in Baghdad that Mr Blair will give Mr Bush a ring and say "I have just the people - Short, Cook and Galloway".
He is a disgrace and he should not be allowed to say the things he has come out with in a time of war. It his hight time that during times of war Members of Parliament should be bound by the same rules as to what they can say, opinions included, about the war. Then we wouldnt have the likes of Galloway and Cook damaging the morale of our troops.
I was shocked by his comments, particularly when he said that, and I cant quote his exact words as I was concentrating on traffic near the M1 "British soldiers fighting in Iraq will have to stand trial for war crimes" and that "the only people fighting legally in Iraq are the Iraqi's".
I hope that when the war is over and we need some experienced politicians to show the way in Baghdad that Mr Blair will give Mr Bush a ring and say "I have just the people - Short, Cook and Galloway".
He's neither right, nor honourable...
Of course, the only way to discover whether he may have committed a criminal offence would be if someone was to complain to the police about it. They'd be obliged to investigate.
Interestingly, Galloway's choice of phrasing appears alarming similar to the Iraqi Ministry of Information's handbook for denouncing the west. Packs of Wolves? Miserable surrogates? Per...lease.
Of course, the only way to discover whether he may have committed a criminal offence would be if someone was to complain to the police about it. They'd be obliged to investigate.
Interestingly, Galloway's choice of phrasing appears alarming similar to the Iraqi Ministry of Information's handbook for denouncing the west. Packs of Wolves? Miserable surrogates? Per...lease.
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We have been warned to be careful regarding local wildlife out here in the Desert as a camel spider/whip scorpion was captured in our Tent City earlier. I understand it has been named "George" and didn't know why until I came on shift today!
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Wholeheartedly agree with your posts, Pilgrim.
Hitler had William Joyce, alias Lord Haw-Haw, executed at Nuremburg in 1946, who is dismissed by many historians as a comical, almost pathetic, figure. It is difficult not to draw parallels between the real Lord Haw-Haw, and Saddam's equivalent, Galloway. The main difference is that Galloway is using the 'soft underbelly of democracy' to undermine our forces and give aid and comfort to the enemy from within our midst. There must be a stage where comments made in the interests of legitimate debate and criticism crosses the line and becomes downright sedition; I am not au fait with the legalities but Galloway has surely crossed that line by now.
On the other hand, to proceed against him would only hand him the oxygen of publicity he, like all self-publicists, undoubtedly craves.
Another thought occurs; perhaps there are numerous muslims in his Kelvinside constituency and he is only looking out to protect his voting majority, as politicians are wont to do.
Good luck to you out there.
Hitler had William Joyce, alias Lord Haw-Haw, executed at Nuremburg in 1946, who is dismissed by many historians as a comical, almost pathetic, figure. It is difficult not to draw parallels between the real Lord Haw-Haw, and Saddam's equivalent, Galloway. The main difference is that Galloway is using the 'soft underbelly of democracy' to undermine our forces and give aid and comfort to the enemy from within our midst. There must be a stage where comments made in the interests of legitimate debate and criticism crosses the line and becomes downright sedition; I am not au fait with the legalities but Galloway has surely crossed that line by now.
On the other hand, to proceed against him would only hand him the oxygen of publicity he, like all self-publicists, undoubtedly craves.
Another thought occurs; perhaps there are numerous muslims in his Kelvinside constituency and he is only looking out to protect his voting majority, as politicians are wont to do.
Good luck to you out there.
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Being old enough to remember Joyce ("Lord Haw-Haw"), I cannot see that he said anything more treasonable than Galloway. If Joyce swung, Galloway should at least be locked up in the Tower and Cook with him.
Of more moment, to my mind, is the general editorial stance of the BBC, which is struggling so hard to be "Independent" that it is bringing aid and comfort to the enemy. Dimbleby père would turn in his grave if he could hear all the doom and gloom as soon as anyone gets hurt, particularly if it's a civilian. In those days the BBC gave such facts as they were able to, sparing none of the set-backs and disasters, but there was never any shred of doubt about whose side they were on. I remember their correspondent reporting live from Arnehm. Very moving.
I think that when this war is over there is going to have to be a rethink of the BBC's charter. Why should we all have to pay a poll-tax to fund an organisation whose aim seems to be to curry
favour with the Third World?
Of more moment, to my mind, is the general editorial stance of the BBC, which is struggling so hard to be "Independent" that it is bringing aid and comfort to the enemy. Dimbleby père would turn in his grave if he could hear all the doom and gloom as soon as anyone gets hurt, particularly if it's a civilian. In those days the BBC gave such facts as they were able to, sparing none of the set-backs and disasters, but there was never any shred of doubt about whose side they were on. I remember their correspondent reporting live from Arnehm. Very moving.
I think that when this war is over there is going to have to be a rethink of the BBC's charter. Why should we all have to pay a poll-tax to fund an organisation whose aim seems to be to curry
favour with the Third World?
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"Alas, Galloway's freedom to spread his poison is one of the downsides of democracy, and their is nothing we can do about it."
Actually, it is one of the upsides.
And I too think that he is a little sh1t .
Actually, it is one of the upsides.
And I too think that he is a little sh1t .
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Perhaps MI5 should investigate the mans finances, they might find he has a nice little retirement fund stashed away somewhere,courtesy of Saddam, after all isn't the Iraqi PR representative in the UK worthy to his hire?
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
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Is there anyone serving out there from his constituency fancy inviting him out for a morale boosting visit to the troops. Maybe we could send him by way of an Amercan check point in a car with no brakes.