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Yep they need to pay a little more attention when posting items viewed by such a critical audience.
All these fast pointy ones are very nice but where are all the photos of the rotary boys that are working their bits off in poor conditions and the C-130k+Js and the rest of the truckies?
How can you expect balanced reporting, when your own team don't even do it?
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All these fast pointy ones are very nice but where are all the photos of the rotary boys that are working their bits off in poor conditions and the C-130k+Js and the rest of the truckies?
How can you expect balanced reporting, when your own team don't even do it?
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FOX News 0445Z Today
Female anchor discussing S-3 that went into Arabian Sea after landing attempt on USS Constellation:
The "F-3" (S-3) ended up in the water after "the brakes apparently failed" (do not land with brakes). The "two pilots" were picked up by a helicopter "that just happened to be in the air", ('plane guard' - always in the air during flight ops).
The "F-3" (S-3) ended up in the water after "the brakes apparently failed" (do not land with brakes). The "two pilots" were picked up by a helicopter "that just happened to be in the air", ('plane guard' - always in the air during flight ops).
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Grob,
Good spot old boy! and shame on the MOD.
But what did you expect ? You don't think for one minute that the MOD have got any idea who and what are currently out in the Gulf, do you??
As T Handle points out, the MOD only talk about the 'fast pointy ones' that are there, ie Tornado, Harrier blah. Yes we do see the occasional shot of a Chinook, but they are very few an far between. I regret that this is the way of todays RAF. If its NOT FJ then it's not worth reporting on, how sad.
What about the Nimrod boys and the E-3's? What about the truckies, the tankers and the helo's.
Come on MOD, all of this 'incorrect' propoganda for the British public will only impress those who know very little or nothing at all. Lets start painting a more accurate picture, and give those in a less of a 'Top Gun' role a bit of glory - they deserve it too
To all aircrew and groundcrew serving us in the desert, but especially to those who barely get a mention, 'well done to you all, and God Speed'
Rant over
Regards
The Swinging Monkey
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Good spot old boy! and shame on the MOD.
But what did you expect ? You don't think for one minute that the MOD have got any idea who and what are currently out in the Gulf, do you??
As T Handle points out, the MOD only talk about the 'fast pointy ones' that are there, ie Tornado, Harrier blah. Yes we do see the occasional shot of a Chinook, but they are very few an far between. I regret that this is the way of todays RAF. If its NOT FJ then it's not worth reporting on, how sad.
What about the Nimrod boys and the E-3's? What about the truckies, the tankers and the helo's.
Come on MOD, all of this 'incorrect' propoganda for the British public will only impress those who know very little or nothing at all. Lets start painting a more accurate picture, and give those in a less of a 'Top Gun' role a bit of glory - they deserve it too
To all aircrew and groundcrew serving us in the desert, but especially to those who barely get a mention, 'well done to you all, and God Speed'
Rant over
Regards
The Swinging Monkey
'Caruthers, I need a Grouse fast!'
Not really a gaffe but I had to rant somewhere and this seems the most appropriate place (have also ranted to gmtv).
I am getting fed up with the constant critical spirit that is evident in all the gmtv reporting of this war.
For example, this morning, John Stapleton could hardly bring himself to describe the success of the British forces in cleaning up al-Zubayr.
He constantly used caveats like "apparently" and " to some extent".
On Sunday, they showed us videos from a camera attached to a tank gun - some excellent shooting of a radio mast about a mile away. Instead of just letting us see it, and making up our own minds about the quality of the shooting, they had to point out that it took several shots to bring it down.
What we saw, was two direct hits, and then the mast came down.
If the troops get to see or hear what the media are doing with the reports from embedded reporters, and feel as mad as I do, I do wonder about the continueing relationship between them.
I am getting fed up with the constant critical spirit that is evident in all the gmtv reporting of this war.
For example, this morning, John Stapleton could hardly bring himself to describe the success of the British forces in cleaning up al-Zubayr.
He constantly used caveats like "apparently" and " to some extent".
On Sunday, they showed us videos from a camera attached to a tank gun - some excellent shooting of a radio mast about a mile away. Instead of just letting us see it, and making up our own minds about the quality of the shooting, they had to point out that it took several shots to bring it down.
What we saw, was two direct hits, and then the mast came down.
If the troops get to see or hear what the media are doing with the reports from embedded reporters, and feel as mad as I do, I do wonder about the continueing relationship between them.
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With you on that, pulse1.
I am fed up with the way any coalition claim is treated to the
'British forces SAY they heve etc'
Stapleton looked a complete pillock, obviously itching to get to the safety of the bunker this morning, AGR in hand, whilst over his right shoulder, the rest of Kuwait carried on about their business, air raid siren or not.
You'd think he'd be bright enough to get a library shot of himself at dawn, with empty streets, if he wants to appear the last to leave his post, rather than the first.
Great interview with father of a female brit soldier. Interviewer trying to winkle emotional response, only got stiff upper lip. They won't ask him back. Not enough 'colour' or human angle.
I am fed up with the way any coalition claim is treated to the
'British forces SAY they heve etc'
Stapleton looked a complete pillock, obviously itching to get to the safety of the bunker this morning, AGR in hand, whilst over his right shoulder, the rest of Kuwait carried on about their business, air raid siren or not.
You'd think he'd be bright enough to get a library shot of himself at dawn, with empty streets, if he wants to appear the last to leave his post, rather than the first.
Great interview with father of a female brit soldier. Interviewer trying to winkle emotional response, only got stiff upper lip. They won't ask him back. Not enough 'colour' or human angle.
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Anybody else see the London ITV news at 6.30 last night? Another "expert" one Wg Cdr Andrew Brooks of the Institute of Strategic something-or-other was commenting on a question regarding the "blue-on-blue" casualties. He drew an analogy between ballroom dancers whereby if the partners don't practice to gether and go straight into a final then there are bound to be a few kicked shins!!(sic) After some more trite ****e he concluded with something along the lines of "Torville & Dean had to practice & practice before giving the winning performance on the ice."
Am I alone in thinking it is possibly AB who is skating on thin ice with the sensitivities of all those (inc families/loved ones) involved in this conflict?
Am I alone in thinking it is possibly AB who is skating on thin ice with the sensitivities of all those (inc families/loved ones) involved in this conflict?
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Bless The Sun newspaper
Page 6 of todays Sun (I know it's the Sun!!) in an article about an 'Apocalypse Now' style helicopter attack on Iraqi tanks is a picture of a Puma. Unfortunately the caption underneath reads 'Deadly....Brit Lynx Chopper Destroyed Tanks' 
4PON4PIN,
So you mean that I didn't imagine it after all? Oh dear.
had it been on a less serious subject, the manner in which he trapped himself in a poor analogy which became progressively worse as he tried to extricate himself might have been vaguely amusing. In this instance, though, you're right - he ended up sounding utterly crass.
So you mean that I didn't imagine it after all? Oh dear.
had it been on a less serious subject, the manner in which he trapped himself in a poor analogy which became progressively worse as he tried to extricate himself might have been vaguely amusing. In this instance, though, you're right - he ended up sounding utterly crass.
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Some num nuts being interviews by duty skirt on BBC Radio 5 live today:
"So how much has been spent"
"Well it amounts to half a billion pounds"
"And what does that amount too"
"Well clearly its 500 million pounds...."
"So how much has been spent"
"Well it amounts to half a billion pounds"
"And what does that amount too"
"Well clearly its 500 million pounds...."
Radio 4 interview yesterday (Mon) with young Trooper who had survived Blue-on-Blue incident at the weekend,
"so, what did you think when the A10 turned to attack for the second time"
"so, what did you think when the A10 turned to attack for the second time"
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BBC: Hu (sp?) Edwards doing headlines tonight:
"Allied forces are still being dogged by reports of civilian casualties in the war, as our reporter XXX reports" (cue to reporter narrating as camera pans poor dead civvies in truck)
Being dogged are we Hu? Look you ******s there is a war on - when will you understand that terrible though it is, innocents will lose their lives? I'd like to put any of those hacks right with a squad of Marines at a VCP checking hundreds of cars, any one of which could be a suicide bomber, and see how they report THAT.
"Allied forces are still being dogged by reports of civilian casualties in the war, as our reporter XXX reports" (cue to reporter narrating as camera pans poor dead civvies in truck)
Being dogged are we Hu? Look you ******s there is a war on - when will you understand that terrible though it is, innocents will lose their lives? I'd like to put any of those hacks right with a squad of Marines at a VCP checking hundreds of cars, any one of which could be a suicide bomber, and see how they report THAT.
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At least Brookie was sober tonight. The other night he had difficulty staying upright and looked as if he would slide to the floor. Clearly hospitality is very good.
Not seen any mention of F3s in the Gulf. Perhaps they were all at RAF Coningsby.
The cunning plan for the departure of 56 Sqn on 28 Mar was launch 15 and do a fly-past in Diamond 9.
I wonder if they managed a pair?
Pancake wrote:
"BBC man in Harrier hangar in Kuwait "...and another (Harrier) behind me is just starting its engines ...". Mmmm, I wonder just how many R-R Pegasus Mk 105's are being squeezed into a GR7 airframe nowadays...?"
I wonder how many BBC men you can squeeze into a Pegasus too!
Not seen any mention of F3s in the Gulf. Perhaps they were all at RAF Coningsby.
The cunning plan for the departure of 56 Sqn on 28 Mar was launch 15 and do a fly-past in Diamond 9.
I wonder if they managed a pair?
Pancake wrote:
"BBC man in Harrier hangar in Kuwait "...and another (Harrier) behind me is just starting its engines ...". Mmmm, I wonder just how many R-R Pegasus Mk 105's are being squeezed into a GR7 airframe nowadays...?"
I wonder how many BBC men you can squeeze into a Pegasus too!
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Watching Sky news the other day (was it really only yesterday?), reporting live from Ramstein as some of the first US casualties returned West, the commentator talked of the casualties returning aboard Hercs and C17's, but it sure looked to me as tho they were being carried off a 141.
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Hilarious few minutes with John "Chuckles" Stapleton this morning trying and failing to make himself heard above the din of a departing GR7. Mind you, the gratuitous insertion of the word "er" between very second word made him barely intelligible anyway. And is that a safari suit he's wearing? Eeeeugh!
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P%££ Poor Arabic !!
Indulge my superior attitude for a minute but I just love the tongue torture experienced by those poor media t****** whilst trying to pronounce the mames of various Arabic Towns, Villages and Cities. No wonder it's taking us so long, we have to mallet every single pronunciation to make sure !!
It is infectious too because even "Geoff Who" has a hernia trying to pronounce "Umm Qasr".
It is infectious too because even "Geoff Who" has a hernia trying to pronounce "Umm Qasr".
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Maybe not a gaffe, but just thought I’d let you know… Finally, the people at the MoD have learned the difference between a VC10, Tristar, and a KC10! I see this morning, that they’ve changed the website again, and have finally got it right! Well done! Lets hope they don’t change it again tomorrow and tell us that it’s “a Tornado F3 refuelling from a Nimrod!”
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/p...ry_ops_air.htm
Happy landings
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http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/p...ry_ops_air.htm
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John "Chuckles" Stapleton on TV this morning reported the downing of the US F18 to the backdrop of an F15 taking off and then stated it was not known whether the aircraft in question had one or two crew on board.
ITN headlines at 9:00 pm last night with Trevor McDonald.
"US troops cross the red line, the point when Saddam has threatened to use weapons of mass destruction"
I know that this is the theory but I would have thought that if they actually did threaten this, the coalition would rush to use it to justify the war. After all, how could he threaten to use weapons he doesn't have.
This is the sort of irresponsible headline we have come to expect from the lowest tabloids, not ITN.
I think that a number of reporters have permanently destroyed their reputations for good reporting over this war.
"US troops cross the red line, the point when Saddam has threatened to use weapons of mass destruction"
I know that this is the theory but I would have thought that if they actually did threaten this, the coalition would rush to use it to justify the war. After all, how could he threaten to use weapons he doesn't have.
This is the sort of irresponsible headline we have come to expect from the lowest tabloids, not ITN.
I think that a number of reporters have permanently destroyed their reputations for good reporting over this war.