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You just don't get it do you? I and the majority of Israelis don't want to occupy the areas that will become a Palestinian state. Unfortunately people like you and others in the media just love to try and make out otherwise. Most of us would like to get out of that mess but until Arafat and his thugs stop inciting violence in one language and then two facedly pretending they mean something else in english, the Israelis are not going to just give them a strategic advantage from where they can carry on with their campaign of suicide bombing and other acts of terror which are funded by that murdering scumbag Saddam Hussein.
You just love bringing it into the topic, just like many of those on the marches today just couldn't help associating the campaign with a 'free palestine' campaign. We get the loony left brigade with pink Ken using the same pathetic argument that the UN resolutions about Iraq are somehow the same as those against Israel.
There is no way I would lower myself to give any kind of propaganda that Saddam Hussein could use and personally I feel that the marchers have given him support in their naivety. You only had to listen to some of the speakers to see the rabid anti-American hysteria that is so in vogue with the loony fringe elements and the bleeding hearts. I didn't see anyone making the point that it was the threat of military action with the massive build up in the area that was making the Butcher of Bahgdad change his tactics with the weapons inspectors. Already Blix has stated that their 'co-operation' was minimal and most of the time they were using the tactic of 'catch as catch can'.
So, I'm not pro war and I'm not anti war but I'm not so stupid as to believe that giving Sadaam a propaganda coup as he received today is going to make the US led coalition stop the build-up of forces in the area. Saddam doesn't threaten you directly you believe. You don't think he has WMD. You don't think he threatens his neighbours. How naive can you get. He openly admits to funding suicide murderers. He murders thousands of his own people every year. So what if he was once supported by the US and the west? Politics change all the time and as we know most politicians have ulterior motives for promoting one startegy or another. The world is full of deals and double deals. It's a fact of life but some people are far too naive to see the bigger picture and let themselves be duped into providing indirect support for the regime in Iraq even if this was not their intention in the first place.
This thread started about an Iraqi air force pilot attempting to kill the Butcher. Most of us as aviators, whether military or otherwise are able to empathise but it only takes one anal retentive to throw the whole thread into yet another endless debate about the nasty US and the evil west wanting to bomb hospitals and burn babies.
Add a few more comments by ill informed 'civilians' and it flames up into this. Thanks to StopStart introducing a comic element it started to become worthwhile reading and I still hope to get a mention in his dispatches. 
I've let off steam and had my say, so I hope you can appreciate that. If you can't then tough. I can be despotic on my own website and you can organise a march to protest my decision. While you're at it you can throw in your own little anti-Israel propaganda as is the fashion with the chattering classes these days!
You just love bringing it into the topic, just like many of those on the marches today just couldn't help associating the campaign with a 'free palestine' campaign. We get the loony left brigade with pink Ken using the same pathetic argument that the UN resolutions about Iraq are somehow the same as those against Israel.
There is no way I would lower myself to give any kind of propaganda that Saddam Hussein could use and personally I feel that the marchers have given him support in their naivety. You only had to listen to some of the speakers to see the rabid anti-American hysteria that is so in vogue with the loony fringe elements and the bleeding hearts. I didn't see anyone making the point that it was the threat of military action with the massive build up in the area that was making the Butcher of Bahgdad change his tactics with the weapons inspectors. Already Blix has stated that their 'co-operation' was minimal and most of the time they were using the tactic of 'catch as catch can'.
So, I'm not pro war and I'm not anti war but I'm not so stupid as to believe that giving Sadaam a propaganda coup as he received today is going to make the US led coalition stop the build-up of forces in the area. Saddam doesn't threaten you directly you believe. You don't think he has WMD. You don't think he threatens his neighbours. How naive can you get. He openly admits to funding suicide murderers. He murders thousands of his own people every year. So what if he was once supported by the US and the west? Politics change all the time and as we know most politicians have ulterior motives for promoting one startegy or another. The world is full of deals and double deals. It's a fact of life but some people are far too naive to see the bigger picture and let themselves be duped into providing indirect support for the regime in Iraq even if this was not their intention in the first place.
This thread started about an Iraqi air force pilot attempting to kill the Butcher. Most of us as aviators, whether military or otherwise are able to empathise but it only takes one anal retentive to throw the whole thread into yet another endless debate about the nasty US and the evil west wanting to bomb hospitals and burn babies.
Add a few more comments by ill informed 'civilians' and it flames up into this. Thanks to StopStart introducing a comic element it started to become worthwhile reading and I still hope to get a mention in his dispatches. I've let off steam and had my say, so I hope you can appreciate that. If you can't then tough. I can be despotic on my own website and you can organise a march to protest my decision. While you're at it you can throw in your own little anti-Israel propaganda as is the fashion with the chattering classes these days!
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If the US is anti-Islam, apparently these Muslims didn't get the memo: For these Muslims, U.S. is their savior - William Kole, AP
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These Muslim countries don't hate the US, or Israel either:
http://www.eajc.org/anons_gen_e.php?id=18
http://www.eajc.org/anons_gen_e.php?id=17
http://www.eajc.org/anons_gen_e.php?id=18
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So Jacko, as an Arab apologist you are unable to distinguish between two totally different conflicts?
The Palestine/Israeli issue used to be front and centre of nearly every news broadcast, then along came the Iraq problem, what alternative did you have but to try and find a link, however tenuous, to associate the Iraq and Palestinian issues in order to keep your Palestinian/Israeli issues in the news?
As has been pointed out to you, several times, there is no link.
Oh yes, the Israeli pacifists who 'marched' in London, the draft dodgers, who will reap all the benefits but not shed even a drop of sweat, let alone blood to further a cause, great. History is littered with pacificst movements, to date they have achieved absolutely nothing, zero, zilch.
The Palestine/Israeli issue used to be front and centre of nearly every news broadcast, then along came the Iraq problem, what alternative did you have but to try and find a link, however tenuous, to associate the Iraq and Palestinian issues in order to keep your Palestinian/Israeli issues in the news?
As has been pointed out to you, several times, there is no link.
Oh yes, the Israeli pacifists who 'marched' in London, the draft dodgers, who will reap all the benefits but not shed even a drop of sweat, let alone blood to further a cause, great. History is littered with pacificst movements, to date they have achieved absolutely nothing, zero, zilch.
Israelis who have the courage to stand up for peace deserve your respect, not your stupid, snide, infantile, narrow-minded abuse. I don't agree with them, but I have respect for those who serve their country in the IDF. At least they have the country to do something about their beliefs. Just like those who come out against the occupation. If only Israel's electorate could put someone like Peres at the helm rather than a right wing war-mongering figure like Sharon.
But what else could we expect from someone too thick to see a link between Arab/European attitudes to the USA, world reaction to the proposed attack on Iraq and US policy on Israel?
Danny,
Snide references to the chattering classes, bleeding hearts and the naivity of marchers left me in no doubt as to your attitude to liberals. Did I misjudge you then?
I'm quite happy to let this thread go back to the original topic, and apologise for my contributions to dragging it away.....
But what else could we expect from someone too thick to see a link between Arab/European attitudes to the USA, world reaction to the proposed attack on Iraq and US policy on Israel?
Danny,
Snide references to the chattering classes, bleeding hearts and the naivity of marchers left me in no doubt as to your attitude to liberals. Did I misjudge you then?
I'm quite happy to let this thread go back to the original topic, and apologise for my contributions to dragging it away.....
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Too thick Jacko?, well, nothing snide or infantile about me Jacko, far from it, was in Aden in 1963/4, saw them at their best, my brother is still buried there, aged 28. I have studied the Middle East in detail ever since, more so than you, perhaps?
Your reaction indicates to me that I may have touched a nerve, good, it is about time you woke up and got real Jacko, because I, and many like me, are becoming a little bit sick of your posturings which are theoretically based and bear no relation whatsoever to fact, you may choose to live in a dream world but most of us don't.
Time to wipe that silly smile off your face and confront reality Jacko.
Your reaction indicates to me that I may have touched a nerve, good, it is about time you woke up and got real Jacko, because I, and many like me, are becoming a little bit sick of your posturings which are theoretically based and bear no relation whatsoever to fact, you may choose to live in a dream world but most of us don't.
Time to wipe that silly smile off your face and confront reality Jacko.
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Jacko, you really don't get it. I really don't care if you are a liberal, left winger or a right winger. I consider the bleeding heart, chattering classes to be all those people who express opinions based solely on the tripe they are fed day in and day out by shallow, dumbed down media run by airy fairy luvvies who couldn't give a rats arse whether the content of their news contained any truth as long as it was artistic enough and twanged the heart chords of the masses, who'se idea that East Enders or Corrie is the focal point of their daily lives.
Unfortunately, they are in the majority. I don't like Bliar or his politics but I'll bet that the majority of those marchers are the same people who voted him and his cronies into power. As far as I am concerned they are all aiders and abetters to the Butcher of Bahgdad and his regime by giving him on a plate enough propaganda to delude him into believing that the US and its coalition partners will somehow balk at going to war because of 750,000 chattering class dupes have marched against a war, thereby actually making it more likely that there will be fighting rather than less.
Just because there was a contingent of Israelis marching yesterday is irrelevant. The majority of Israelis don't want a war. If you had the nounce to think back to the last Gulf war it was the Israelis themselves who were targets of Husseins Scuds and the terror of the possibility that they had chemichal or biological warheads. Almost all Israelis have served in their armed forces. It is after all primarily a defence force. Most Israelis don't want to have to serve in the occupied territories, I know I didn't when I was serving over there, but that doesn't mean that they should just hand them over without regard for their own security, which if you had really studied the situation you would know needs careful planning.
As for Sharon being in power, he was elected because that anal reject, Arafat was too stupid to realise that by calling for the intifada and for martyrs aka murderers he would force the electorate to vote for Sharon because of his tough stance with the PLO. If Arafat is too corrupt and stupid to see that by inciting violence he only destroys his own power base and inflicts suffering on his own people then why do people like Jacko think that somehow linking the Israel/Palestine issue to the stand off between Sadaam Hussein and the UN is somehow relevant. The only relevance I can see is that Arafat and Hussein are good buddies. Not that they probably like each other but that they both provide mutual support. Remember Arafats support for Hussein when he invaded Kuwait? Remember what happened to all the 5th columnist Palestinians in Kuwait after the liberation? That is the only link that I see and for pinko nutters like Ken Livingston to try and link the two in his speech yesterday goes to show how much the chattering classes and bleeding hearts are duped by false politics and dumbed down news.
If you feel that you are a Liberal and that somehow my comments make you angry because I associate the chatterers and bleeding hearts with traitors who would sell out our soldiers on the front line then so you should be angry... with yourself for your twisted politics and subversion. It is our soldiers and those of the coalition forces that are the one who are causing the murdering scumbag of Bahgdad to ever so slightly change his tune with the weapons inspectors. It is the soldiers presence and the threat of their action and not a bunch of bleeding heart chatterers with an anti-American diatribe who go on luvvie duvvie marches which directly and indirectly supports the murdering thug in Bahgdad that will ensure whether we actually end up fighting or not.
How you judge me is irrelevant jacko. I and quite a few others can see through your veneer of supposed impartiality which you use to try and cover up your obvious agenda of misrepresentation and anti-Israel rhetoric. I believe that I at least say openly what I believe the situation is. I am pro Israeli having lived there and served in the army there. I am not pro any settlements in the territories but they have served their purpose in getting the Palestinians to the negotiating table until their arsehole of a leader shafted them all. The sooner that the Israeli electorate get the right wing religious parties out of government the sooner we will probably see some progress as long as the Palestinians are astute enough to bypass their current dictator who has done nothing but cause misery for his own people.
Once Sadaam is dealt with, whether by war or by insurrection or assasination then the whole of the Middle East will change politically. The reformers in Iran will hopefully stabilise their nation and bring it back to a state of significance able to power broke in the region and the mad princes of Saud who introduced and support the Wahib doctrine, one of the fundamental causes of the present world climate of fear from terrorism, will wane in influence as the focus of the region shifts. The Israelis and the Palestinians will eventually come to some form of settlement but to associate the current crisis with the one facing Sadaam Hussein is just more twisted logic from Jackonicko and his guilty concience for being a liberal.
Rant over. StopStart must have noticed that one!
Unfortunately, they are in the majority. I don't like Bliar or his politics but I'll bet that the majority of those marchers are the same people who voted him and his cronies into power. As far as I am concerned they are all aiders and abetters to the Butcher of Bahgdad and his regime by giving him on a plate enough propaganda to delude him into believing that the US and its coalition partners will somehow balk at going to war because of 750,000 chattering class dupes have marched against a war, thereby actually making it more likely that there will be fighting rather than less.
Just because there was a contingent of Israelis marching yesterday is irrelevant. The majority of Israelis don't want a war. If you had the nounce to think back to the last Gulf war it was the Israelis themselves who were targets of Husseins Scuds and the terror of the possibility that they had chemichal or biological warheads. Almost all Israelis have served in their armed forces. It is after all primarily a defence force. Most Israelis don't want to have to serve in the occupied territories, I know I didn't when I was serving over there, but that doesn't mean that they should just hand them over without regard for their own security, which if you had really studied the situation you would know needs careful planning.
As for Sharon being in power, he was elected because that anal reject, Arafat was too stupid to realise that by calling for the intifada and for martyrs aka murderers he would force the electorate to vote for Sharon because of his tough stance with the PLO. If Arafat is too corrupt and stupid to see that by inciting violence he only destroys his own power base and inflicts suffering on his own people then why do people like Jacko think that somehow linking the Israel/Palestine issue to the stand off between Sadaam Hussein and the UN is somehow relevant. The only relevance I can see is that Arafat and Hussein are good buddies. Not that they probably like each other but that they both provide mutual support. Remember Arafats support for Hussein when he invaded Kuwait? Remember what happened to all the 5th columnist Palestinians in Kuwait after the liberation? That is the only link that I see and for pinko nutters like Ken Livingston to try and link the two in his speech yesterday goes to show how much the chattering classes and bleeding hearts are duped by false politics and dumbed down news.
If you feel that you are a Liberal and that somehow my comments make you angry because I associate the chatterers and bleeding hearts with traitors who would sell out our soldiers on the front line then so you should be angry... with yourself for your twisted politics and subversion. It is our soldiers and those of the coalition forces that are the one who are causing the murdering scumbag of Bahgdad to ever so slightly change his tune with the weapons inspectors. It is the soldiers presence and the threat of their action and not a bunch of bleeding heart chatterers with an anti-American diatribe who go on luvvie duvvie marches which directly and indirectly supports the murdering thug in Bahgdad that will ensure whether we actually end up fighting or not.
How you judge me is irrelevant jacko. I and quite a few others can see through your veneer of supposed impartiality which you use to try and cover up your obvious agenda of misrepresentation and anti-Israel rhetoric. I believe that I at least say openly what I believe the situation is. I am pro Israeli having lived there and served in the army there. I am not pro any settlements in the territories but they have served their purpose in getting the Palestinians to the negotiating table until their arsehole of a leader shafted them all. The sooner that the Israeli electorate get the right wing religious parties out of government the sooner we will probably see some progress as long as the Palestinians are astute enough to bypass their current dictator who has done nothing but cause misery for his own people.
Once Sadaam is dealt with, whether by war or by insurrection or assasination then the whole of the Middle East will change politically. The reformers in Iran will hopefully stabilise their nation and bring it back to a state of significance able to power broke in the region and the mad princes of Saud who introduced and support the Wahib doctrine, one of the fundamental causes of the present world climate of fear from terrorism, will wane in influence as the focus of the region shifts. The Israelis and the Palestinians will eventually come to some form of settlement but to associate the current crisis with the one facing Sadaam Hussein is just more twisted logic from Jackonicko and his guilty concience for being a liberal.
Rant over. StopStart must have noticed that one!
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If you so want to kick out Sadam go do it yourself. This also goes to those Americans amongst us. If you have some sort of a problem you f**king well sort it out yourself be it you fear Sadam or you want his oil I dont give a f**king t**s.
Leave us out of it. I dont care if you live or die be you muslem, jew, christian, wolf or sheep. None of you are worth the life of a single British citizen be them soldier or civilian. Go back to your caves stone age men and women and bang rocks against each others head.
You are weak.
Edited to remove some of the foul language that this poster is too stupid to realise does nothing to enhance his argument and does everything to make everyone realise that he is too simple minded to take part in these discussions as his use of expletives is about as useful as a poke in the arm with a sharp stick.
Leave us out of it. I dont care if you live or die be you muslem, jew, christian, wolf or sheep. None of you are worth the life of a single British citizen be them soldier or civilian. Go back to your caves stone age men and women and bang rocks against each others head.
You are weak.
Edited to remove some of the foul language that this poster is too stupid to realise does nothing to enhance his argument and does everything to make everyone realise that he is too simple minded to take part in these discussions as his use of expletives is about as useful as a poke in the arm with a sharp stick.
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Danny, its time you took this miserable excuse for a human being off the PPRuNe books. I am of course talking about our good old friend "A Civilian". His last post is beyond bad taste, considering that so many of our guys and girls are off to the desert to rid the world of Saddam.
Does anyone have this guys address so that his face can be introduced to the concrete, very, very roughly!
I am truly glad that he is not representative of the majority of decent people in the UK.
Does anyone have this guys address so that his face can be introduced to the concrete, very, very roughly!
I am truly glad that he is not representative of the majority of decent people in the UK.
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I accept no less than to be banned. Ive gotten to the point that simply honesty is all I can say on the matter. Ive given up using any sort of argument whatsoever. This is my opinion that quite frankly we should not ge involved in this arse pit thats called the middle east.
I'm not a liberal, but can see that they're fundamentally decent and honourable and preferable to the looney left and the looney right. I wouldn't dream of labelling those who disagree with me as 'dupes' and I can see that this is a complex argument with right and wrong on both sides.
I'm genuinely impartial when it comes to Israel and Palestine. Having studied the history of the Middle East to degree level (under a Jewish professor) you can't be anything but impartial, and sickened and depressed by the whole damned mess.
I'm pretty sick of your accusations about me. You've labelled me as an Arab apologist and as a racist on these boards time and again. There's no 'veneer of supposed impartiality' it's genuine impartiality, and its more than a veneer. Nor do I have no 'agenda of misrepresentation or anti-Israel rhetoric'. I call it as I see it, and I cannot help it if your paranoia and persecution complex makes you interpret any criticism of Israel as being part of some kind of monstrous, racist, Arab inspired propaganda campaign. I'll happily condemn Palestinian terrorism in all its forms, but I am also prepared to condemn Israeli excess. (Historically the PLO have brought much of their present situation on themselves, and I can understand Israeli mistrust and unease). I have even less respect for Arafat than I have for Sharon, but I will acknowledge that at least he's moved away from terrorism, and see that as significant and meaningful. I can see good and bad, right and wrong on both sides, like most reasonable people, and would welcome a peaceful solution in the region which would provide peace and justice for both sides. Israel needs and deserves security and peace, while the Palestinians deserve and need a homeland, without Israeli army occupation, without illegal settlements and with some kind of sharing of Jerusalem. (Or does that make be a bile-filled, spittle flecked arab apologist in your book, just like the UN, many decent Israelis, and many European governments?)
And because Arab and European public opinion sees a connection between US attitudes and policy on Israel and its policy on Iraq, a link self evidently exists.
Blue Eagle,
I believe that things have moved on since 1964. I'm sure that anyone involved in Aden (or in Kenya, or in Cyprus, or anywhere else where Colonial control came to an end under pressure from local independence movements) would have seen the very worst of the nationalities involved, since they were dealing with terrorist scum. Doesn't mean they're all like that, though....
Prior to the mid 1970s (and after 1949) I'd have taken the Israeli side every time, too. But once the Arab world abandoned the destruction of Israel as an aim, and after Sabra and Chatila and all the rest, it all became a bit less clear cut.
I'm genuinely impartial when it comes to Israel and Palestine. Having studied the history of the Middle East to degree level (under a Jewish professor) you can't be anything but impartial, and sickened and depressed by the whole damned mess.
I'm pretty sick of your accusations about me. You've labelled me as an Arab apologist and as a racist on these boards time and again. There's no 'veneer of supposed impartiality' it's genuine impartiality, and its more than a veneer. Nor do I have no 'agenda of misrepresentation or anti-Israel rhetoric'. I call it as I see it, and I cannot help it if your paranoia and persecution complex makes you interpret any criticism of Israel as being part of some kind of monstrous, racist, Arab inspired propaganda campaign. I'll happily condemn Palestinian terrorism in all its forms, but I am also prepared to condemn Israeli excess. (Historically the PLO have brought much of their present situation on themselves, and I can understand Israeli mistrust and unease). I have even less respect for Arafat than I have for Sharon, but I will acknowledge that at least he's moved away from terrorism, and see that as significant and meaningful. I can see good and bad, right and wrong on both sides, like most reasonable people, and would welcome a peaceful solution in the region which would provide peace and justice for both sides. Israel needs and deserves security and peace, while the Palestinians deserve and need a homeland, without Israeli army occupation, without illegal settlements and with some kind of sharing of Jerusalem. (Or does that make be a bile-filled, spittle flecked arab apologist in your book, just like the UN, many decent Israelis, and many European governments?)
And because Arab and European public opinion sees a connection between US attitudes and policy on Israel and its policy on Iraq, a link self evidently exists.
Blue Eagle,
I believe that things have moved on since 1964. I'm sure that anyone involved in Aden (or in Kenya, or in Cyprus, or anywhere else where Colonial control came to an end under pressure from local independence movements) would have seen the very worst of the nationalities involved, since they were dealing with terrorist scum. Doesn't mean they're all like that, though....
Prior to the mid 1970s (and after 1949) I'd have taken the Israeli side every time, too. But once the Arab world abandoned the destruction of Israel as an aim, and after Sabra and Chatila and all the rest, it all became a bit less clear cut.
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A Civilian, so you are saying that you've given up using any sort of argument altogether... which means that you have lost the argument. Well that's very mature of you. Just goes to show that you have nothing useful to say.
If you try and use foul language again in one of your petty tantrums I will oblige you with your request for a banning. Now go and stay in your room until you can behave properly and act like an adult.
If you try and use foul language again in one of your petty tantrums I will oblige you with your request for a banning. Now go and stay in your room until you can behave properly and act like an adult.
Danny - whilst foul language is inexcusable, I do recognise the sheer naked frustration which A Civilian is attempting to express. I'm sure that he has genuine concerns about current Middle East events; the fact that he doesn't express them in the rhetoric of the Oxford debating society is nihil ad rem.
We may not agree with what he says; we do, however, protect his freedom to express his views. He doesn't know just how lucky he is to be able to speak his mind without censure....believe me.
But A C - please try to cool it!
We may not agree with what he says; we do, however, protect his freedom to express his views. He doesn't know just how lucky he is to be able to speak his mind without censure....believe me.
But A C - please try to cool it!
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What is this "....we should not get involved....". I didn't realise you were posted to the Gulf - obviously the royal "we".
As BEagle says you have a right to your opinion, indeed "we" in the military defend the way of life that allows you to express it, but I am not sure this is the right place for you to do so. I suppose that morally no one persons opinion is more important than another. However, this is the military avaition site on Pprune, and for all your (and Jackonicko's) ranting it will not be you putting your life on the line if "we" go to war. The boys (and girls) who will be going "sausage side" if it happens all have their own thoughts on the subject, if the likes of you didn't hi-jack these threads they might even consider contributing them!
What is this "....we should not get involved....". I didn't realise you were posted to the Gulf - obviously the royal "we".
As BEagle says you have a right to your opinion, indeed "we" in the military defend the way of life that allows you to express it, but I am not sure this is the right place for you to do so. I suppose that morally no one persons opinion is more important than another. However, this is the military avaition site on Pprune, and for all your (and Jackonicko's) ranting it will not be you putting your life on the line if "we" go to war. The boys (and girls) who will be going "sausage side" if it happens all have their own thoughts on the subject, if the likes of you didn't hi-jack these threads they might even consider contributing them!
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Jackonicko..........I guess you dont class Palestinians as Arabs. I dont really want to upset the moderator but I do have to respond.
I think that Sharon and the Israeli people have shown considerable, ney, super-human restraint in their dealings with the sub-human suicide bombing sons-of-camel-afterbi@th that are Palestinians.
I am sure that if the suicide bombing stopped right now the Israelis would react accordingly and the situation may resolve itself.
Sorry Danny, I couldnt sit back and listen to Jacko spouting off any more.
To avoid misinterpretation KENNYR, I think you should change your second paragraph to read "...their dealings with the sub human sons-of-camel afterbirth that are suicide bombers." Whether they are Palestinians or any other nationality is irrelevant and the way your paragraph is phrased at the moment smacks of racism.
I think that Sharon and the Israeli people have shown considerable, ney, super-human restraint in their dealings with the sub-human suicide bombing sons-of-camel-afterbi@th that are Palestinians.
I am sure that if the suicide bombing stopped right now the Israelis would react accordingly and the situation may resolve itself.
Sorry Danny, I couldnt sit back and listen to Jacko spouting off any more.
To avoid misinterpretation KENNYR, I think you should change your second paragraph to read "...their dealings with the sub human sons-of-camel afterbirth that are suicide bombers." Whether they are Palestinians or any other nationality is irrelevant and the way your paragraph is phrased at the moment smacks of racism.
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A Civilian would do well to widen his caring beyond British lives and consider his words more carefully. We may live on an island but we depend in many ways on people from other countries. We have to care about the rest of the human race - we don't have to like them but we cannot isolate our lives from them. If we are not prepared to confront those who show no care for our fellow humans then we might eventually regret it.
Please, A Civilian, find a way with your words to persuade us that you are worth caring about.
Please, A Civilian, find a way with your words to persuade us that you are worth caring about.
Champagne anyone...?
Never, ever take your eye off the ball!!!
Well.
Ladies and Gentlemen.
What can I say?
Oh, this is good......this is too good! Developing just as we'd expected, nay hoped!!
I thought it was all over - surely it is now?!?! A Civilian's response not in crayon as expected but in what would appear to be a "dirty" protest! Fantastic stuff!!
Sadly I must depart interfrastically to deliver yet another cargo of death/bubble wrap and bog paper to the front line. However, assuming I survive the flak over Ponza and the enemy Zeros over Crete, a full and frank update of these remarkable events will be with you later tomorrow morning - live from the front line/Tommy T's!!
Chances are though - this'll have been locked by then! Still, it's been fun...
Remember! "This is serious!"
Ladies and Gentlemen.
What can I say?
Oh, this is good......this is too good! Developing just as we'd expected, nay hoped!!
I thought it was all over - surely it is now?!?! A Civilian's response not in crayon as expected but in what would appear to be a "dirty" protest! Fantastic stuff!!
Sadly I must depart interfrastically to deliver yet another cargo of death/bubble wrap and bog paper to the front line. However, assuming I survive the flak over Ponza and the enemy Zeros over Crete, a full and frank update of these remarkable events will be with you later tomorrow morning - live from the front line/Tommy T's!!
Chances are though - this'll have been locked by then! Still, it's been fun...
Remember! "This is serious!"