Industrial Action Anyone?
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Industrial Action Anyone?
Well it looks like the cynics amongst us won out, on Ceefax this morning, public sector workers (that's us) will be given a 3% payrise in line with inflation! So there you go guys, as Buff-hoon announces that we're sending more fast pointy things to defend the petrol pumps (call me a cynic if you wish) Gordy's telling us we can have 3%. Oh yes, I can just imagine them telling Mr Gilchrist that his firefighters are only going to get 3%. So anyone for a series of 24 hour stoppages?
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3%? Sounds good to me.
Me? UK Police pilot. 0% this year. (Police Aviation Services, if you are thinking of leaving the mob.)
(PS. The 0% was BALPA negotiated)
Mind you no one's shot at me yet............
Me? UK Police pilot. 0% this year. (Police Aviation Services, if you are thinking of leaving the mob.)
(PS. The 0% was BALPA negotiated)
Mind you no one's shot at me yet............
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Ahhh but psychlic, what are you on already? You see I just find it a tad difficult to explain to a 30 strong group of fire-fighters, some of whom are 18-20 year olds on Ł12000 a year, a wife, 2 kids, a second job and receiving benefits, that as well as all their secondary duties that they do, to try and get promotion (ie more pay), as well as replacing civvy firemen who get paid twice as much as them with much better terms of service etc, that they really should jump for joy when they're offered the opportunity to go out of area again for the 6th month out of the last 10! Maybe at the same time as we're deposing the people at Westminster who are so out of touch with reality that you couldn't hit them with a cruise missile, we could carry out a bit of enforced wealth re-distribution. Stop paying footballers and 'musicians' (and I use that term with extreme sarcasm) millions and give it to teachers, nurses, doctors, firemen (yes firemen), police oh, and the armed forces. Pay us what we deserve and stop fobbing us off!
(Sorry very wound up!)
(Sorry very wound up!)
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Apparently if we were to go on strike I have heard the Government have plans to replace us in the short term with thousands of idle firefighters.
Lets hope they look at working conditions in the new package and definately modernization
Lets hope they look at working conditions in the new package and definately modernization
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The AFPRB 2003 link has been added to http://www.mod.uk/issues/pay/index.htm unfortunatly it just points to 2002 at the mo!!
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The last time we got 10% was just after GW I. Interesting to see what happens if we have a GW II. Not holding my breath - and YES, someone else has the same attitude as me about footballers - ten grand a day for kicking a leather bag about - what is it all about?
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So...
We spend at least 4 to 6 months of the year away from home and family, living (mostly) in the middle of a huge sand pit. We go to places around the world where the locals see us as targets. We continue to get taxed, even when out of the country for so long. We fill in for the firefighters because they are demanding a 40% (16%?). We are sent to kill livestock during foot and mouth outbreaks. We help the local authorities when severe flooding strikes again. We spend more time keeping up to date with nif-naf and useless stats than we do performing our primary tasks.
For all this we get a (rumoured) miserly 3%.
And they wonder why most branches and trades are under-staffed
Two years and counting....
MadMark!!!
We spend at least 4 to 6 months of the year away from home and family, living (mostly) in the middle of a huge sand pit. We go to places around the world where the locals see us as targets. We continue to get taxed, even when out of the country for so long. We fill in for the firefighters because they are demanding a 40% (16%?). We are sent to kill livestock during foot and mouth outbreaks. We help the local authorities when severe flooding strikes again. We spend more time keeping up to date with nif-naf and useless stats than we do performing our primary tasks.
For all this we get a (rumoured) miserly 3%.
And they wonder why most branches and trades are under-staffed
Two years and counting....
MadMark!!!
Shan't go
I was looking at the ARSSE board - I know I feel cheap and dirty just saying it - and there was a post that 2 RAMC colonels(!) and 1 Sergent have failed to report for dury following call-up.
So it looks like a strike may just be starting.
(It is always possible the 2 RAMC colonels are secreytly planning on having the government sectioned as part of a coup attempt though)
So it looks like a strike may just be starting.
(It is always possible the 2 RAMC colonels are secreytly planning on having the government sectioned as part of a coup attempt though)
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Not that we're ever likely to get such a break, but for the US forces the Middle-East has continued to be a war zone since Gulf War 1. If they touch the ground in a war zone, that month is tax free for them. If they land at 10 to midnight on the 31st and depart at 10 past midnight on the 1 st of the next month, then both months are tax free.
2.9% - Whoopyf**k
2.9% - Whoopyf**k
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I thought they might make it slightly more, but 3% is above inflation, so I'm not complaining. It would have been nice to see junior ranks getting 5% and the rest of us 2.5%. At least those annoying staged increases (2% now, 1% after Chrimbo) appear to be a thing of the past.
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Don't know where she got it from (possible local radio news) but Mrs Bootscooter just phoned and told me that we were getting 3.2-3.7%. Stil sh!te, for all the reasons mentioned, but hey, I'm getting used to it.
Yep, just finished interagating (sp?) the Good Lady, and she insists that 3.2-3.7% dependant on rank, was on BBC TV lunchtime news.
Yep, just finished interagating (sp?) the Good Lady, and she insists that 3.2-3.7% dependant on rank, was on BBC TV lunchtime news.
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Apologies, the 2.9 came from a newspaper predicting an expected raise for police, teachers, forces etc. The link in M134's post now points to the 2003 award.
Airmen Aircrew Financial Retention Incentive of 20,000 from 1 April 2003, for a period of three years, for those completing 17years ’ service, subject to a minimum return of ˘ve years’ service to the Immediate Pension Point (and tapered arrangements for those who have between four and two years to serve before their IPP).
The military pay ranges under Pay2000 for all Other Ranks and Officers be uprated by 3.2 per cent from 1 April 2003. (some exceptions - 3.7). 3.2 for flying pay as well.
Airmen Aircrew Financial Retention Incentive of 20,000 from 1 April 2003, for a period of three years, for those completing 17years ’ service, subject to a minimum return of ˘ve years’ service to the Immediate Pension Point (and tapered arrangements for those who have between four and two years to serve before their IPP).
The military pay ranges under Pay2000 for all Other Ranks and Officers be uprated by 3.2 per cent from 1 April 2003. (some exceptions - 3.7). 3.2 for flying pay as well.
Best wishes with the pay rise.
Just to put Psyclic's page 1 comments into context, those of us now ex-mil in BALPA and working for PAS weren't universally unhappy with what was negotiated for us. I'd have been in line for a 10%-plus rise if the older blowhards hadn't voted against...
Just to put Psyclic's page 1 comments into context, those of us now ex-mil in BALPA and working for PAS weren't universally unhappy with what was negotiated for us. I'd have been in line for a 10%-plus rise if the older blowhards hadn't voted against...