Black Flying Gloves???!!!!
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Black Flying Gloves???!!!!
What I want to know is which w@nker decided to discontinue green flying gloves and replace them with black ones? Was this a station guard trying to disguise the wearage of flying gloves or was it some mindnumbingly blunt git who has no idea of the reason why we spent years trying to introduce green gloves to make us SH and other worthy mates a bit more tactical in the field?
The only unit I know who wants black gloves is the BBMF! so COME ON ....who the f@ck decided on this waste of money?????
We want the green gloves back and I mean now......
The only unit I know who wants black gloves is the BBMF! so COME ON ....who the f@ck decided on this waste of money?????
We want the green gloves back and I mean now......
"...a bit more tactical in the field"??? - oh spare me! Black is sooo less tactical than green isn't it? All fired up on this week's Ultimate Force are we?
I bet you're one of those people who thinks it's a good idea to wear camcream just in case the sun on your face gives away the position of your helicopter to the enemy.
I bet you're one of those people who thinks it's a good idea to wear camcream just in case the sun on your face gives away the position of your helicopter to the enemy.
I understand that Mr A Stardust thinks that black leather gloves are pretty cool.....
Can't see the problem, personally. White ones get pretty grubby and is there really so much difference between green and black ones.....
Can't see the problem, personally. White ones get pretty grubby and is there really so much difference between green and black ones.....
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Well the obvious solution to being issued black gloves is to keep wiping your nose with the back of the glove.
If you don't wash them, black gloves will become green gloves in a matter of weeks!
If you don't wash them, black gloves will become green gloves in a matter of weeks!
Champagne anyone...?
I actually like to wear cam cream on my sunglasses in case the glint gives away the position of my Herc.
Whilst we're being tactical, what about green boots? I tend to wear wellies when in the field, as it is usually all muddy and revolting, and they're green.
Do I win a bun?
Whilst we're being tactical, what about green boots? I tend to wear wellies when in the field, as it is usually all muddy and revolting, and they're green.
Do I win a bun?
Tactical
To achieve real field cred you could try having your face tattooed in a green and brown DPM pattern.
Think how impressed your unit psychiatrist will be with your commitment to the HM's armed forces.
Think how impressed your unit psychiatrist will be with your commitment to the HM's armed forces.
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OK so green gloves have gone black and OG flying suits have gone turquoise. Just because the new colours can do the job doesn't mean the change was worthwhile. Is there a reason for these changes or has someone fcuked up. Hmmmm let me guess.
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Ahhh, cam cream for aircrew.... many an hour on exercise whiled away chuntering about that one!!! Our QMs are never open anyway so it looks like we'll be keeping our green gloves for the foreseeable future!
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I don't think the guy is paranoid at all.
Can i have the black ones for night flying and some pink ones for Saudi Arabia (& 11 sqn) and some blue ones for flying over water. The white ones are great during the winter and .......Oh b**llocks i'm off 2 the bar
Can i have the black ones for night flying and some pink ones for Saudi Arabia (& 11 sqn) and some blue ones for flying over water. The white ones are great during the winter and .......Oh b**llocks i'm off 2 the bar
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While we’re on the subject of credibility (Pah!) – I remember not so long ago sitting through a discussion one afternoon (not quite flat out but not far from it), after a rather long lazy lunch.
We were half way through the FSO course in London and the discussion was the next improvement / design to the Nomex flying suit.
This was supposed to be a serious discussion i.e. if an increase to the existing number of zips, pockets etc affect the overall protection given by the suit. Would higher collars give greater protection during flash fires etc?
What developed quite quickly though was a free for all about the why’s and where for’s of having additional space on which to place Squadron badges / nametags etc. The discussion had been highjacked by some pretentious HJ jockeys – you know the ones who use the Martin Baker let down system when in trouble while the rest of us, for whom the Nomex suit was originally designed, have to stay with the aircraft all the way down.
Frankly, I couldn’t give a what’s it provided the suit does what it was designed for i.e. giving the crew who have to stay with the aircraft, some form of fire protection while they put themselves back on terra firma – it’s the attitude that sucks.
Similarly with the Flying gloves saga, just think back to the first issue of white gloves. Once again they were designed with several jobs in mind.
Give limited protection from fire, give positive feel to flying controls / dials and switches (if fitted properly) and finally, coloured white so the ground crew could see the Pilots hand signals from within the darker cockpit.
Why oh why can’t people leave things alone if they’re not broke?
We were half way through the FSO course in London and the discussion was the next improvement / design to the Nomex flying suit.
This was supposed to be a serious discussion i.e. if an increase to the existing number of zips, pockets etc affect the overall protection given by the suit. Would higher collars give greater protection during flash fires etc?
What developed quite quickly though was a free for all about the why’s and where for’s of having additional space on which to place Squadron badges / nametags etc. The discussion had been highjacked by some pretentious HJ jockeys – you know the ones who use the Martin Baker let down system when in trouble while the rest of us, for whom the Nomex suit was originally designed, have to stay with the aircraft all the way down.
Frankly, I couldn’t give a what’s it provided the suit does what it was designed for i.e. giving the crew who have to stay with the aircraft, some form of fire protection while they put themselves back on terra firma – it’s the attitude that sucks.
Similarly with the Flying gloves saga, just think back to the first issue of white gloves. Once again they were designed with several jobs in mind.
Give limited protection from fire, give positive feel to flying controls / dials and switches (if fitted properly) and finally, coloured white so the ground crew could see the Pilots hand signals from within the darker cockpit.
Why oh why can’t people leave things alone if they’re not broke?
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colours...
Back in the good 'ole days (late 80's), over here we had 3 different colours of zoom bags, dk green, tan and blue. Gloves were either brown or green leather, or brown nomex/leather. Man, it was like flying with a crew made up of all exchange guys.
The best was one of the boys who flew using the flash gloves like the matelots wear, you know, the white nomex/leather ones that go up to the shoulder!
Now that guy believed in protection.
Is there honestly a difference in black over green
? Geez, after a coupla weeks flying, green becomes black anyway...unless you chuck 'em in the wash after every flight.
The best was one of the boys who flew using the flash gloves like the matelots wear, you know, the white nomex/leather ones that go up to the shoulder!
Now that guy believed in protection.Is there honestly a difference in black over green
? Geez, after a coupla weeks flying, green becomes black anyway...unless you chuck 'em in the wash after every flight.
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Black, green , white I don't give a f#ck!
Who cares!
The black ones have been round since the blood hound operators used them , and abseilers (inners to the thick sued gloves)
Dry your eyes new boy and stop whinging(Oh **** can't wait for the banter now )
I'd be more concerned with the **** flying boots crap coveralls that make us stand out like les testicles de la chien
Who cares!
The black ones have been round since the blood hound operators used them , and abseilers (inners to the thick sued gloves)
Dry your eyes new boy and stop whinging(Oh **** can't wait for the banter now )
I'd be more concerned with the **** flying boots crap coveralls that make us stand out like les testicles de la chien
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Well.....thanks for that!! Esp 'motionlotion' my sentiments entirely. Too rude you are just....too rude (an' I ain't a new boy on the street).
Today I actually spoke to the bloke who knows; a very nice civvy servant chappy (with an 'oooooarrrrr' accent) who proudly stated that black ones save £5 a pair over the green ones!! Apparently we use 13000 pairs per year so it's a substantial saving.
Frankly I don't care - these so called economic savings are beginning to really p@ss me off by making all that work and sound thinking of yesteryear seem a total waste of time and effort.
Third rate we are becoming................we bought the Merlin didn't we...
Today I actually spoke to the bloke who knows; a very nice civvy servant chappy (with an 'oooooarrrrr' accent) who proudly stated that black ones save £5 a pair over the green ones!! Apparently we use 13000 pairs per year so it's a substantial saving.
Frankly I don't care - these so called economic savings are beginning to really p@ss me off by making all that work and sound thinking of yesteryear seem a total waste of time and effort.
Third rate we are becoming................we bought the Merlin didn't we...
