National service manifesto pledge
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National service manifesto pledge
So, James Cleverly (which has to be a oxymoron) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...ost_type=share
He wants 30k young people a years to do 25days service per year.
Surely as a reservist he knows that it takes more than 25 days just to complete the basic training, and should also be aware that the current training regime for all 3 services is already maxed out trying to get the regulars through basic training and on to Phase 2 units.
Is this grasping at straws?
He wants 30k young people a years to do 25days service per year.
Surely as a reservist he knows that it takes more than 25 days just to complete the basic training, and should also be aware that the current training regime for all 3 services is already maxed out trying to get the regulars through basic training and on to Phase 2 units.
Is this grasping at straws?
National Service
As I’ve already said on Jetblast (with the caveat that I seriously doubt it’ll ever come to pass) it had better be fully representative of every ethnicity, gender and race or there will be hell to pay.
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So, James Cleverly (which has to be a oxymoron) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69059992?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bb c_live&ns_linkname=6652d9c9e5702a5b8f6bcc5e%26What%20we%20do %20know%20about%20national%20service%20plan%3F%262024-05-26T10%3A33%3A55.531Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset: 8b9a8fa8-c2c6-45a0-9c16-da815b6b0cb6&pinned_post_asset_id=6652d9c9e5702a5b8f6bcc5e&p inned_post_type=share
He wants 30k young people a years to do 25days service per year.
Surely as a reservist he knows that it takes more than 25 days just to complete the basic training, and should also be aware that the current training regime for all 3 services is already maxed out trying to get the regulars through basic training and on to Phase 2 units.
Is this grasping at straws?
He wants 30k young people a years to do 25days service per year.
Surely as a reservist he knows that it takes more than 25 days just to complete the basic training, and should also be aware that the current training regime for all 3 services is already maxed out trying to get the regulars through basic training and on to Phase 2 units.
Is this grasping at straws?
At any given time, there are roughly three quarters of a million over-18s in the UK
have they asked the Army? because that s where most would end up - historically the Army has not been a fan of conscription in the UK.
It looks and sounds like a desperate attempt to get the over 60's to vote for them TBH but it just ensures the Youth vote will be energised.
It looks and sounds like a desperate attempt to get the over 60's to vote for them TBH but it just ensures the Youth vote will be energised.
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Yes, but are the “yoofs” going to vote for conscription or against it? This could be the biggest backfire in electoral history … unless Rishi has called the GE in the knowledge he’s going to lose and is doing it now so he can’t be blamed for something round the corner that he knows is about to bite the UK in some way?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The military option will be voluntary, selective, and commissioned - and not square bashing or combat armed roles.
Sounds more like secondments to Abbey Wood, MOD and Cheltenham rather than Salisbury Plain…
”Young people will be able to choose between:
“Applying for a competitive, full-time military commission over 12 months in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, where young people will learn and take part in logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations. This placement will be selective, so that our world leading armed forces recruit and train the brightest and the best”.
“Volunteering for one weekend per month (25 days per year) in a civic role, where they can choose between roles in our communities…….”
Sounds more like secondments to Abbey Wood, MOD and Cheltenham rather than Salisbury Plain…
”Young people will be able to choose between:
“Applying for a competitive, full-time military commission over 12 months in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, where young people will learn and take part in logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations. This placement will be selective, so that our world leading armed forces recruit and train the brightest and the best”.
“Volunteering for one weekend per month (25 days per year) in a civic role, where they can choose between roles in our communities…….”
“Volunteering for one weekend per month (25 days per year) in a civic role, where they can choose between roles in our communities…….”
That sounds like a DofE Gold award
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A stupid idea, doomed to failure. Regular drug-testing would exclude many of the 'participants' anyway.
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The commissioned bit is interesting. One wonders what the selection process will be?
RAF - explain Bernoulli's Theorem with your hands tied behind you back.
RN - tell me why ships float
Army - did I know your father?
RAF - explain Bernoulli's Theorem with your hands tied behind you back.
RN - tell me why ships float
Army - did I know your father?
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The military option will be voluntary, selective, and commissioned - and not square bashing or combat armed roles.
Sounds more like secondments to Abbey Wood, MOD and Cheltenham rather than Salisbury Plain…
”Young people will be able to choose between:
“Applying for a competitive, full-time military commission over 12 months in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, where young people will learn and take part in logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations. This placement will be selective, so that our world leading armed forces recruit and train the brightest and the best”.
“Volunteering for one weekend per month (25 days per year) in a civic role, where they can choose between roles in our communities…….”
Sounds more like secondments to Abbey Wood, MOD and Cheltenham rather than Salisbury Plain…
”Young people will be able to choose between:
“Applying for a competitive, full-time military commission over 12 months in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, where young people will learn and take part in logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations. This placement will be selective, so that our world leading armed forces recruit and train the brightest and the best”.
“Volunteering for one weekend per month (25 days per year) in a civic role, where they can choose between roles in our communities…….”
The navy and marines seemed to largely avoid conscription. According to one veteran of the peace time call up, three names were decided by some criteria or other, upon arrival (not sure if this was the case at all recruit camps). They were asked to step forward and were told grab your bags, your going home, Merry Christmas! For the rest, they were due to be demobbed in December 1962, the Cuban missle crisis put paid to that, and their service was extended by six months. The last national serviceman, I understand, was an RAC Lieutenant, who cycled back from West Germany to Zeebrugge, or wherever, in June 1963, and handed his uniform in on return to Blighty!
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In 2022 (the latest year I could find figures for in a very quick internet search) there were about 715,000 18 year olds in the UK (it might have been just England and Wales).
Even allowing for half going to university, and presumably exempt, that leaves 358,000.
There are supposedly 30,000 places on this national service scheme.
As a comparison, last year 330,000 young people (admittedly not all 18) started the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme.
Even allowing for half going to university, and presumably exempt, that leaves 358,000.
There are supposedly 30,000 places on this national service scheme.
As a comparison, last year 330,000 young people (admittedly not all 18) started the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme.
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Below the Glidepath - not correcting
Conscription is to Defence strategy what diving weights are to high jumping. It's an idea beyond stupidity and is about as desperate as a tramp fighting for the last Greggs pasty in a rusty skip.
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In the 1959 election the Conservative Party had announced they would end National Service. They won, and they did, in 1960.
Could it be that Rishi Sunak's advisers have got things back to front for what people vote for ?
Could it be that Rishi Sunak's advisers have got things back to front for what people vote for ?
Just what we need in the military right now, YTS with a pip on their shoulders.