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UK/USA aircraft start striking targets in Yemen

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Old 12th Jan 2024, 13:15
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And the Saudi's aren't friends with the Houthis either
However, the events in Gaza have consequences and they won't want to be seen overtly aiding the 'Crusaders' who 1)are perceived as unquestioning backers of Israel and 2) whose chattering classes were constantly condemning the Saudi's actions in Yemen.

I presume targeting data would have to be updated using satellite and USN assest intelligence fairly late in the mission on a 3000nm round trip if the targets were mobile weapons rather than command and control?

The Cyprus Mail has been reassuring its readers about the danger of Houthi responses:
The Houthi movement has access to long-range missiles, though it is believed the maximum range of any of their equipment is 1,950 kilometres – less than the distance between Yemen and Cyprus.
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Old 12th Jan 2024, 13:24
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I agree about Jeremy Bowen last night. He also failed to mention the small point that the Houthis had attacked a British warship going about its lawful pursuits in international waters. That alone is a reason for action.
More elegantly and traditionally:

......... and a security for such as pass on the seas upon their lawful occasions: that the inhabitants of our island may in peace and quietness serve thee our God; ..........................
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Old 12th Jan 2024, 17:40
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And the Houthi's have been under near daily air attack from the Saudi's since 2015...
indeed. Not sure what additional impact these attacks will have.
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Updated UK MOD footage of last night's strikes.

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Old 12th Jan 2024, 21:14
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
More elegantly and traditionally:

......... and a security for such as pass on the seas upon their lawful occasions: that the inhabitants of our island may in peace and quietness serve thee our God; ..........................
Thank you LB. As read by Noel Coward in “ In which we serve”
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
indeed. Not sure what additional impact these attacks will have.
My thoughts exactly. With no disrespect to those who carried out yesterday's strikes - haven't the Saudis been hitting the Houthis for years now with very similar weapons, using similar aircraft to little avail?
Granted coalition will have much better surveillance, intel etc... and be able to bring greater numbers of weapons to the fight.
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Old 12th Jan 2024, 23:57
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The Saudis were not attacking a specific capability, they were attacking the Houthis in general. What the USA and the UK strikes are doing is attacking missile sites and the ability of the Houthis to launch missiles against shipping. The West have been doing this sort of thing since 1991 so I think they are proficient at it. I also think that the Allied pilots will have tighter ROE than the Saudis.
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Quite.
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Old 13th Jan 2024, 02:47
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Some secondaries in the IR videos, it wasn't just a sandpit that got struck.
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Old 13th Jan 2024, 06:28
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Anither US Tomahawk attack last night on an airfield AD radar site near the capital.

Presumably a mopping up exercise post-BDR from the previous night’s attack.


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Anither US Tomahawk attack last night on an airfield AD radar site near the capital.

Presumably a mopping up exercise post-BDR from the previous night’s attack.
Would these sites have been identified as threats from the previous nights raid? Presumably they at least tracked coalition aircraft opening them up to attack?
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Originally Posted by tartare
My thoughts exactly. With no disrespect to those who carried out yesterday's strikes - haven't the Saudis been hitting the Houthis for years now with very similar weapons, using similar aircraft to little avail?
Granted coalition will have much better surveillance, intel etc... and be able to bring greater numbers of weapons to the fight.
The Yanks maybe. Not sure we'll be seeing that many 3000nm round trip sorties from the UK component. More of a symbolic effort IMO.

Just route the ships around the Cape and accept it'll take a few weeks longer and cost a bit more to get our cheap Chineses tat - job done.
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Old 13th Jan 2024, 11:50
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Just route the ships around the Cape and accept it'll take a few weeks longer and cost a bit more to get our cheap Chineses tat - job done.
Indeed, one wonders if protecting the Chinese trade effort is the best use of UK taxpayers money.

Back in the day, when the British empire was the world's larges trading entity, the Royal Navy was the world's largest in order to protect that trade.
Seems like China has been getting a free ride at UK/US expense.
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Old 13th Jan 2024, 11:55
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To add to this, reported this morning that the French, Germans and Italians are playing no part in the action.
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According to Reuters 'experts' the emphasis on the Houthis risk increasing piracy elsewhere which I assume includes threats to ships on the Cape Route. (5 Jan story about Indian Navy's intervention in the attempted hijack of MV Lila Norfolk)

The Indian Navy has increased its surveillance of the Arabian Sea after recent attacks in the region.

The hijacking and attempted hijacking of commercial ships in the Gulf of Aden and Arabian Sea resumed in December after a six-year lull. Experts believe pirates have been encouraged by U.S.-led anti-piracy naval forces diverting their attention to the neighbouring Red Sea to thwart attacks there by Houthi rebels.

Data from the Indian Navy's Information Fusion Centre - Indian Ocean Region show at least three hijackings in December. The previous such incident was reported in 2017.

"The sudden revival in ship hijacking and attacks can only be attributed to the pirates' willingness to take advantage of the fact that the focus of anti-piracy maritime forces has largely shifted from the Gulf of Aden to the Red Sea," Abhijit Singh, head of the Maritime Policy Initiative at the Observer Research Foundation think tank in New Delhi, said.
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Old 13th Jan 2024, 12:43
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Would the RAF aircraft gave flown over Saudi on the way? Or would it e Egypt or a very long way round?
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Straight down the Red Sea I would imagine. Though I should add I have no actual idea.

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I cannot imagine Israel objecting to overflight which is hardly a detour either. Egypt also has self interest in having the canal accessible. The only surprise is the Houthis complaining how unfair it is that people are shooting back.
Rishi Sunak spoke with the Egyptian President on Thursday. I guess it's no surprise just what they were talking about.
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I noticed on the Beeb news last night that the third F18 seemed to go off the cat dry. Surely this isn’t SOP. There also seemed to be some flashes from under the wings just as it went out of shot, which made me wonder if it was a “clear wing” moment.

Anyone with F18 experience out there have a view?

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Old 13th Jan 2024, 15:32
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Originally Posted by Mogwi
I noticed on the Beeb news last night that the third F18 seemed to go off the cat dry. Surely this isn’t SOP. There also seemed to be some flashes from under the wings just as it went out of shot, which made me wonder if it was a “clear wing” moment.

Anyone with F18 experience out there have a view?

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Dry as in dry thrust? If so, the Superhornet doesn't need AB under a certain gross weight (big enough motors fitted) to get off the deck.

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