NATO vs Russia
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The Chief of the General Staff of the Romanian Army made some very worrying and blunt statements yesterday, which is incredibly unusual (and might possibly cost him his job), given that the Romanian political leadership has consistently stuck to the "no need to worry" approach (for a whole variety of idiotic reasons I won't go into).
"I am more than convinced that Putin will escalate the war in the very immediate future."
"The Russian Federation has become a problem for the world order, for democracy. In fact, it is a war of Russia against the democratic world. It is not a war with Ukraine.”
”Yes, the population of Romania, like the entire population of the European Union, of Europe, should be very concerned and we need to adopt appropriate measures to be prepared for war.”
”Personally, not necessarily as a military person, I believe that the Russian Federation will not stop here. If it wins in Ukraine, the next target will be the Republic of Moldova. We will also witness tensions in the Western Balkans."
"I am more than convinced that Putin will escalate the war in the very immediate future."
"The Russian Federation has become a problem for the world order, for democracy. In fact, it is a war of Russia against the democratic world. It is not a war with Ukraine.”
”Yes, the population of Romania, like the entire population of the European Union, of Europe, should be very concerned and we need to adopt appropriate measures to be prepared for war.”
”Personally, not necessarily as a military person, I believe that the Russian Federation will not stop here. If it wins in Ukraine, the next target will be the Republic of Moldova. We will also witness tensions in the Western Balkans."
The Chief of the General Staff of the Romanian Army made some very worrying and blunt statements yesterday, which is incredibly unusual (and might possibly cost him his job), given that the Romanian political leadership has consistently stuck to the "no need to worry" approach (for a whole variety of idiotic reasons I won't go into).
"I am more than convinced that Putin will escalate the war in the very immediate future."
"The Russian Federation has become a problem for the world order, for democracy. In fact, it is a war of Russia against the democratic world. It is not a war with Ukraine.”
”Yes, the population of Romania, like the entire population of the European Union, of Europe, should be very concerned and we need to adopt appropriate measures to be prepared for war.”
”Personally, not necessarily as a military person, I believe that the Russian Federation will not stop here. If it wins in Ukraine, the next target will be the Republic of Moldova. We will also witness tensions in the Western Balkans."
"I am more than convinced that Putin will escalate the war in the very immediate future."
"The Russian Federation has become a problem for the world order, for democracy. In fact, it is a war of Russia against the democratic world. It is not a war with Ukraine.”
”Yes, the population of Romania, like the entire population of the European Union, of Europe, should be very concerned and we need to adopt appropriate measures to be prepared for war.”
”Personally, not necessarily as a military person, I believe that the Russian Federation will not stop here. If it wins in Ukraine, the next target will be the Republic of Moldova. We will also witness tensions in the Western Balkans."
I am not clear, what does the World Economic Forum have to do with the defence of Romania.
well the Romanians have always been pretty suspicious of the Russians................... like to keep them at arms length
Last night Russian border guards removed border buoys laid by Estonia from the Narva river. The buoys are to prevent fishermen and everybody else from straying to Russian waters accidentally. What is the reasoning behind Russian border guards actions? No idea. Lure people to illegal border crossings maybe?
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BBC: A man has been charged with assisting Russian intelligence after being arrested by UK counter-terror police.
Howard Michael Phillips, 64, from Harlow in Essex, was arrested in central London and is due at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Thursday afternoon.
Investigators have also searched addresses in Hertfordshire and Essex.
There is not believed to be any threat to the wider public, the Metropolitan Police have said.
Mr Phillips was arrested under new National Security Act powers, which mean people can be detained without a warrant if police "reasonably" suspect they are involved "in foreign power threat activity".
Police have not disclosed details about the activities he is alleged to have engaged in.
The charge covers actions which "materially assist a foreign intelligence service in carrying out UK-related activities".
Howard Michael Phillips, 64, from Harlow in Essex, was arrested in central London and is due at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Thursday afternoon.
Investigators have also searched addresses in Hertfordshire and Essex.
There is not believed to be any threat to the wider public, the Metropolitan Police have said.
Mr Phillips was arrested under new National Security Act powers, which mean people can be detained without a warrant if police "reasonably" suspect they are involved "in foreign power threat activity".
Police have not disclosed details about the activities he is alleged to have engaged in.
The charge covers actions which "materially assist a foreign intelligence service in carrying out UK-related activities".
Shirley not!!!!! 
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Russians living in the US clearly recruited by the Kremlin have been surveilling homes and families of Special Forces operators outside Fort Liberty.
The FBI had not opened a counterintelligence investigation. 🤦♂️
So, an Army Colonel shot the trespasser….
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mysteriou...ises-questions
Mysterious shooting outside Army Special Forces residence in North Carolina raises questions
Chechen power company subcontractor found shot in North Carolina near Army colonel’s home
A mysterious shooting in North Carolina north of Fort Liberty, formerly Fort Bragg, not far from where some of America’s most elite U.S. Special Operations forces live and train is under investigation by the Army Criminal Investigation Division as well as local police.
The shooting in Carthage, North Carolina occurred May 3 at 8:15 p.m. following a phone call about a suspected trespasser near a Special Forces soldier's property.Two Chechen men who spoke broken English were found near the soldier's home. The family alleges the suspected intruder, 35-year-old Ramzan Daraev of Chicago was taking photos of their children.
When confronted near a power line in a wooded part of the property, an altercation ensued and Daraev was shot several times at close range. A second man, Dzhankutov Adsalan, was in a vehicle some distance from the incident and was questioned by authorities and then released. The Moore County Sheriff's office is leading the investigation.
The FBI told Fox News, "Our law enforcement partners at the Moore County Sheriff's Office contacted the FBI after a shooting death in Carthage. A special agent met with investigators and provided a linguist to assist with a language barrier for interviews."
Sheriff Ronnie Fields said in a statement: "The caller indicated that an individual was observed taking photographs on the property and had become aggressive towards a resident outside their home. The deceased was found approximately 250 yards from the roadway, along a powerline on the residential property. Identification was not initially found on Daraev; however, his identity was later confirmed through family members and an international identification located in his vehicle."
The shooter has been identified as a Colonel with the U.S. Army who resided at the location of the shooting.
U.S. Special Operations soldiers around the country have experienced strange interactions in recent years that they say involve suspicious surveillance of them and their families. Many believe that U.S. military bases have become an increasing target of foreign probes.
The shooting incident two weeks ago in Carthage could have been a case of mistaken identity. The two Chechens had no personal identification. They did have two cell phones with Russian language contacts and camera equipment. They were not wearing any uniforms for the power company that reportedly employed them.
Sheriff Ronnie Fields said Daraev was working as a subcontractor for Utilities One, a company based in New Jersey, at the time of his death. Investigators are still working to verify his official employment and immigration status.
At the time of the incident, Daraev was not in possession of any utility equipment, utility clothing, or identification…….
The FBI had not opened a counterintelligence investigation. 🤦♂️
So, an Army Colonel shot the trespasser….
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mysteriou...ises-questions
Mysterious shooting outside Army Special Forces residence in North Carolina raises questions
Chechen power company subcontractor found shot in North Carolina near Army colonel’s home
A mysterious shooting in North Carolina north of Fort Liberty, formerly Fort Bragg, not far from where some of America’s most elite U.S. Special Operations forces live and train is under investigation by the Army Criminal Investigation Division as well as local police.
The shooting in Carthage, North Carolina occurred May 3 at 8:15 p.m. following a phone call about a suspected trespasser near a Special Forces soldier's property.Two Chechen men who spoke broken English were found near the soldier's home. The family alleges the suspected intruder, 35-year-old Ramzan Daraev of Chicago was taking photos of their children.
When confronted near a power line in a wooded part of the property, an altercation ensued and Daraev was shot several times at close range. A second man, Dzhankutov Adsalan, was in a vehicle some distance from the incident and was questioned by authorities and then released. The Moore County Sheriff's office is leading the investigation.
The FBI told Fox News, "Our law enforcement partners at the Moore County Sheriff's Office contacted the FBI after a shooting death in Carthage. A special agent met with investigators and provided a linguist to assist with a language barrier for interviews."
Sheriff Ronnie Fields said in a statement: "The caller indicated that an individual was observed taking photographs on the property and had become aggressive towards a resident outside their home. The deceased was found approximately 250 yards from the roadway, along a powerline on the residential property. Identification was not initially found on Daraev; however, his identity was later confirmed through family members and an international identification located in his vehicle."
The shooter has been identified as a Colonel with the U.S. Army who resided at the location of the shooting.
U.S. Special Operations soldiers around the country have experienced strange interactions in recent years that they say involve suspicious surveillance of them and their families. Many believe that U.S. military bases have become an increasing target of foreign probes.
The shooting incident two weeks ago in Carthage could have been a case of mistaken identity. The two Chechens had no personal identification. They did have two cell phones with Russian language contacts and camera equipment. They were not wearing any uniforms for the power company that reportedly employed them.
Sheriff Ronnie Fields said Daraev was working as a subcontractor for Utilities One, a company based in New Jersey, at the time of his death. Investigators are still working to verify his official employment and immigration status.
At the time of the incident, Daraev was not in possession of any utility equipment, utility clothing, or identification…….
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BREAKING:
Poland has signed a LOA executive agreement to buy 4 reconnaissance and early warning aerostats full with radars & IFF system transponders from the USA.
The cost is USD 1 billion & the main contractor is Raytheon.
They will be posted on the eastern border & can stay up 24/7.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...nce-aerostats/
Poland has signed a LOA executive agreement to buy 4 reconnaissance and early warning aerostats full with radars & IFF system transponders from the USA.
The cost is USD 1 billion & the main contractor is Raytheon.
They will be posted on the eastern border & can stay up 24/7.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...nce-aerostats/
Will it always come with a Blackhawk escort? 
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Last night Russian border guards removed border buoys laid by Estonia from the Narva river. The buoys are to prevent fishermen and everybody else from straying to Russian waters accidentally. What is the reasoning behind Russian border guards actions? No idea. Lure people to illegal border crossings maybe?
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/st...99221234634829
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/st...99221234634829
If it's the case, NATO countries can organise a very simple response that would push Russia to rescind their plans.
That response would be closing the Danish straits to Russian military ships until the issue is sorted.
It is a proportionate response in the same field as the Russian attempts; changing the status of international waters in the vicinity of national waters.
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"That response would be closing the Danish straits to Russian military ships until the issue is sorted."
jeez - you really want to start a fight? It's probably a disagreement over exactly where the buoys were laid - these things are, to start with, best sorted out by the local Estonian Coast Guard visiting their Russian opposite numbers to discuss the issue rather than immediately escalating it to multi-national action. I believe the Norwegian Border Guard post at Kirkenes has a phone line to their Russian equivalents to sort exactly that type of minor issue.
jeez - you really want to start a fight? It's probably a disagreement over exactly where the buoys were laid - these things are, to start with, best sorted out by the local Estonian Coast Guard visiting their Russian opposite numbers to discuss the issue rather than immediately escalating it to multi-national action. I believe the Norwegian Border Guard post at Kirkenes has a phone line to their Russian equivalents to sort exactly that type of minor issue.
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I wasn't really suggesting it as a response to the buoy moving but rather a response to this:
https://maritime-executive.com/artic...the-baltic-sea
I saw another link to this subject in the Ukraine thread.
https://maritime-executive.com/artic...the-baltic-sea
I saw another link to this subject in the Ukraine thread.
"That response would be closing the Danish straits to Russian military ships until the issue is sorted."
jeez - you really want to start a fight? It's probably a disagreement over exactly where the buoys were laid - these things are, to start with, best sorted out by the local Estonian Coast Guard visiting their Russian opposite numbers to discuss the issue rather than immediately escalating it to multi-national action. I believe the Norwegian Border Guard post at Kirkenes has a phone line to their Russian equivalents to sort exactly that type of minor issue.
jeez - you really want to start a fight? It's probably a disagreement over exactly where the buoys were laid - these things are, to start with, best sorted out by the local Estonian Coast Guard visiting their Russian opposite numbers to discuss the issue rather than immediately escalating it to multi-national action. I believe the Norwegian Border Guard post at Kirkenes has a phone line to their Russian equivalents to sort exactly that type of minor issue.
If a hard line had been taken with Georgia in 2008, Crimea in 2015 and the withdrawal from Afghanistan hadn't been the unmitigated shambles that it was, I doubt very much we'd be in the situation we are in now.
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Hungary is working to “redefine” the country’s NATO membership status to allow for opt-outs should the military alliance undertake military actions outside of the defense alliance’s territory, Orban said.
According to Orban officials are already working to develop a "new concept" that will give Hungary a different position within the NATO alliance.
In the radio interview, Orbán said that Hungary still wants to remain a member of the alliance, but that it is examining whether this is also possible without participating in any military actions outside NATO borders. “Our lawyers and officers are working hard to see how Hungary can maintain its NATO membership in a way that it does not have to participate in NATO actions outside NATO territory,” Orban said.…
According to Orban officials are already working to develop a "new concept" that will give Hungary a different position within the NATO alliance.
In the radio interview, Orbán said that Hungary still wants to remain a member of the alliance, but that it is examining whether this is also possible without participating in any military actions outside NATO borders. “Our lawyers and officers are working hard to see how Hungary can maintain its NATO membership in a way that it does not have to participate in NATO actions outside NATO territory,” Orban said.…
Hungary is working to “redefine” the country’s NATO membership status to allow for opt-outs should the military alliance undertake military actions outside of the defense alliance’s territory, Orban said.
According to Orban officials are already working to develop a "new concept" that will give Hungary a different position within the NATO alliance.
In the radio interview, Orbán said that Hungary still wants to remain a member of the alliance, but that it is examining whether this is also possible without participating in any military actions outside NATO borders. “Our lawyers and officers are working hard to see how Hungary can maintain its NATO membership in a way that it does not have to participate in NATO actions outside NATO territory,” Orban said.…
According to Orban officials are already working to develop a "new concept" that will give Hungary a different position within the NATO alliance.
In the radio interview, Orbán said that Hungary still wants to remain a member of the alliance, but that it is examining whether this is also possible without participating in any military actions outside NATO borders. “Our lawyers and officers are working hard to see how Hungary can maintain its NATO membership in a way that it does not have to participate in NATO actions outside NATO territory,” Orban said.…
As to the underlined bit: Mr Orban, that ship sailed in 1995, in Bosnia. Do try to keep up.
"jeez, do you really want to appease someone who only respects force?"
Are you going to start another war in Europe because some guys have moved some buoys?
Are you going to start another war in Europe because some guys have moved some buoys?
The point was that just as China and Korea in the east are actively trying to change international sea boundaries, Russia (Putin) has now got hold of this idea to try and rearrange Baltic agreements and international arrangements in their own backwaters. Testing the waters for that new world order?
The point was that just as China and Korea in the east are actively trying to change international sea boundaries, Russia (Putin) has now got hold of this idea to try and rearrange Baltic agreements and international arrangements in their own backwaters. Testing the waters for that new world order?