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Old 27th Oct 2023, 14:36
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Ch47 delivery for NASCAR

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/wjd...ibextid=6FXz0Z

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NASCAR has long had a strong connection with the US Military - and not just the typical pre-race military aircraft 'fly-bys'. In fact the military is one of the primary sponsors of one of the NASCAR Cup cars (Cup being the NASCAR 'premier' class).
They also do stuff around Memorial day - like replacing the drivers names (displayed across the top of the car windshield) with the name of a US Serviceman lost in action.
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Originally Posted by havoc
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/wjdm4KJfN16ufVYr/?mibextid=6FXz0Z

SASLESS will get it…
FB link does not work so I googled on fb

https://www.military.com/video/aircr...BHRUCu9TROAp5I



Be cool to see one in nsacar colors

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Youtube version of the video.



I cringed for a moment where it almost became an "Aw Shucks!" event.

Ask your friendly Chinook Pilot what that was.

I once flew a Lap around the Charlotte Motor Speedway in a 47.....Bell 47 owned by the Charlotte City Police Department.



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I cringed for a moment where it almost became an "Aw Shucks!" event
Open ramp hitting, or very nearly, the tarmac SAS?
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"I once flew a Lap around the Charlotte Motor Speedway in a 47.....Bell 47 owned by the Charlotte City Police Department."
Were you in hot pursuit of a speeding car?
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Originally Posted by morton
"I once flew a Lap around the Charlotte Motor Speedway in a 47.....Bell 47 owned by the Charlotte City Police Department."
Were you in hot pursuit of a speeding car?
probably being lapped by it!
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Youtube version of the video.
I cringed for a moment where it almost became an "Aw Shucks!" event.
Not a helo pilot but I saw that too. Those uprights weren't that far away if he'd rolled forward on the landing.
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The potential problem is. not very obvious.

Megan saw it.

If the Ramp Control lever is in the "Down Position" and the Ramp makes contact with the pavement and the Pilot then allows for Sheeba to stand on her two hind legs.....something is going to have to give.

Sometimes it is the airframe itself which gets very expensive in excess of just "Aw Shucks!" if you understand Helicopter Pilot Coded language.

As to the Bell 47.....even at max warp had it been a Race.Car it would not have gone fast enough to stay up on the banked turns of the paved track.
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As to the Bell 47.....even at max warp had it been a Race.Car it would not have gone fast enough to stay up on the banked turns of the paved track
Car racing - Ellyson Field TH13M (Bell 47) dual trip instructor spotted a car traveling on a freeway in the process of construction and dropped down so the skid toes were hovering just above the boot, no reaction from the car and we proceeded on our way.

UH-34 undertaking night flying hovered over the railway tracks and turned on the landing light when a train approached, base got a big bill for trashed train brakes. Instructors must have been missing combat.
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Train tracks drew drew Army and Navy helicopters....more than a few incidents as you describe happened around Army bases like Fort Wolters, Fort Stewart, and Fort Rucker in those days.

Drive In movie theater screens drew landing lights as well. On Night cross country flights it was one right after another at regular intervals as flights of fifty or more helicopters in a long string saw that being done ahead of them and fell victim to temptation.

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I've heard the landing light/train story somewhere in the past, probably a US book, though I think it involved an aircraft -F-86?- low over a carefully reconnoitred stretch of straight single track!
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
I've heard the landing light/train story somewhere in the past, probably a US book, though I think it involved an aircraft -F-86?- low over a carefully reconnoitred stretch of straight single track!
There is a reference to the practice in an old Nevil Shute novel (Beyond the Black Stump).
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Jhieminga Interesting, think I brought and read Beyond The Black Stump only recently (resurgence of interest in Nevil Shute's books) but I don't think it's the source of the story I recall. Might have been a magazine article I suppose.
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That Nevil Shute title was first published in 1956, so it is realistic to say that Shute must have heard of it sometime in the late 40s, early 50s. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a practice that was conceived around training bases in the US sometime during WWII. It may go back to the introduction of landing lights on aircraft, but I suspect that the combination of youth, aeroplanes and too much spare time was involved somehow. Shute also described it as something instructors did to keep boredom at bay, pointing towards a training facility as the source of the story. There may be a news story from those days around describing how a train and aeroplane collided at night....
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how a train and aeroplane collided at night....
Mascot in he old days had a rail line that ran across the runway, DC-3 hit a train while taxing after a runway change, train had been cleared by ATC to cross, derailed five coal wagons. Damage to the 3 was said to be "light", one tough aircraft.
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The train / flat wheels / Landing light tale has been around since the 30’s.
Especially during WW2 in Canada and The USA with all those T-6s, Cessna Cranes and Beech Expeditors and other training aircraft flying around overhead flat deserts and prairies at night with lots of nice busy straight tracks crisscrossing the landscape with trains rushing the troops and tools of war to various seaports. A target rich environment for adventuresome young aviators.
Bob Stevens cartoon below. From his great book …”There I Was…..”



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