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USMC F-35B Crash - 17 Sep 23

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Old 18th Sep 2023, 16:29
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You may laugh, but the USA did similar in the 70's for I think an F18 that had been displaying at Farnborough? it spat its turbine out nr Basingstoke and the US offered rewards to anyone finding pieces of the engine to help in finding out why it failed.
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...shades of 370...
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I watched a single seat GR3 ejection on take off - the start of the 3rd stage LP Stators issue that plagued the fleet for many years.

Yes, I remember that well! I heard the engine wind down, grabbed my 35mm camera, jumped out of the door and got the first shot through the tele-photo lens as the seat started to move up the rails, followed by a series of shots of rocket firing, seat separation, ‘chute deployment and subsequent arrival back on the grass, alongside the substantial fireball.

As I lowered the camera, I realised that I had just returned from a War Sites recce and had removed the TS(UK eyes only) film from the camera (no digital in them days!!) a matter of minutes before. Fantastic shots of the ejection, therefore, stayed imprinted on my memory but not on film ☹️. I remember that the titanium fire kept re-igniting itself for several hours afterwards.

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No, ‘twas I.
Aah OK.
I thought it might have been Tony Craig or John Sadler, as I'm sure it was one them that said in an interview about enjoying sneaking up at low level on RAF stations when flying the BAe Mossie around the country to airshows because of low radar signature of the Wooden Wonder, the worlds first stealth MRCA
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 17:19
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There's lots of large 'killer subs' waiting silently in Lake Marion and Lake Moultrie.........of the prehistoric kind equipped with many teeth

Lake Marion has South Carolina's largest population of Alligators it seems, with Lake Moultrie, the 2nd largest. The jet might stay lost

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I wonder if that means that the "Substantial" reward shown on the poster, might be a "Sub-surface" mouthful from your backside by one of the lakes' "inhabitants" if you try to claim it?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:05
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Originally Posted by Tango and Cash
Maybe the wingman wasn't in visual range when the ejection happened?
I figured that went without saying. But maybe Wing and Lead really didn't like each other.
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Talk in some reports is that the weather was "bad"/"poor"..maybe this is actually one instance where the METAR might be relevant to members of the Pprune AAIB.
Fiar point, that used to be a standard adjunct to most mishap reports.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:16
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Is anyone local to the area? Are these lakes used for any sort of recreation? Boating, fishing, etc? I know the weather was bad, but it's not January. 2pm on a weekend, only a few miles out of town and there's nobody around? Is that normal for the area?

In this day and age, with everyone glued to their cell phone, I would expect not only witnesses, but a dozen videos posted to youtube and tiktok within the hour. If not of the plane, then at least of the pilot hanging under canopy. He reportedly landed in a back yard. Somebody must have seen him?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:38
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Where did the canopy go? That's got to be a few hundred pounds of acrylic and aluminum or carbon fiber fallen out there.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 18:58
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There are a variety of possible reasons for what happened. I suspect the aircraft was flying as the wingman and had his transponder selected off per normal procedures. The flight lead in this situation would by training be concerned with the ejected pilot not the airframe if VFR. If IFR not much he can do with regard to the airframe or the ejected pilot. If in fact they were flying in formation I doubt the autopilot was on and I doubt the pilot would bother to select it on prior to ejection.
The reason for the ejection could be a bird strike, engine failure, cockpit fire or even an unintended ejection due to a malfunction.
We do know the stealth features seem to work!
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 19:21
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Update, aircraft located a bit further away then they expected!



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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:32
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Maybe the wingman wasn't in visual range when the ejection happened?
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:44
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Originally Posted by Friedlander
Well, if it's a B Model it can't have gone that far. Something very fishy about this story.
The F35B has more internal fuel and better range than a F18 or F16. The F35C has fantastic range with over 18,000 lbs of fuel internally.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 20:44
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Bit of a turn and the aircraft could have been Bermuda bound.....lots of ocean not far from the incident site....and lots of National Forest areas with lots of trees and marsh.

The USAF is still missing some Hydrogen Bombs down towards Savannah.

Bad weather...not a lot of visibility....wide open spaces or the ocean....this yard dart might take some finding.
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The lakes are a huge recreation area. Lots of fishing. Average depth less than twenty feet.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 21:27
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Something like this might go on at the accident board: Go to about 1:00 minutes.

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Old 18th Sep 2023, 21:37
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Originally Posted by 212man
Same thing happened with a Bulldog too (although obviously the student did not 'eject'!)
If this was somewhere near Formby in the 1980's, IIRC he became something of a legend following his arrival in a field next to a public house, by removing his bonedome, gathering the parachute, walking through the crowded Sunday afternoon beer garden to the bar where he requested "a large brandy and the use of your telephone please".
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The US military is searching for a missing F-35B in South Carolina after the pilot ejected yesterday and the jet kept flying. If you have seen an F-35 in the woods, please contact the US Marines.


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Old 18th Sep 2023, 22:24
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Wreckage now found in Williamsburg County, SC

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