USMC F-35B Crash - 17 Sep 23
The only ejection in the history of the Irish Air Corps involved a two seat Vampire in a spin. Instructor orders cadet to get out, this helps spin recovery, instructor flies home.
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I Had similar recently talking to London/Oxford when I was crossing their ‘feathers’ in the UHMRA (or at least where it used to be back in the day)
They Couldn’t see me as the K6 is wood and I was flying too slow for them anyway…..they were very grateful for the conversation though.
…apparently.
I Had similar recently talking to London/Oxford when I was crossing their ‘feathers’ in the UHMRA (or at least where it used to be back in the day)
They Couldn’t see me as the K6 is wood and I was flying too slow for them anyway…..they were very grateful for the conversation though.
…apparently.
Lots of questions for sure.
Section Takeoff (Naval Air wording for a two aircraft formation(....Pilot ejects and "the second aircraft landed safely".
Uh....either Lead ejected...or the Wing Man ejected....and the witness Pilot saw nothing....heard nothing....and returned to land normally....without saying nothing?
Now that would be odd sure enough.
In formation flight....does only one aircraft in the formation emit IFF signals or in this case perhaps....Civilian Transponder signals?
If so....was the downed aircraft the one that was not the emitter in the formation.
Is this going to turn out to be something similar to this USAF event except the Pilot showed up as a hitchhiker?
https://warisboring.com/thunder-on-t...and-its-pilot/
Section Takeoff (Naval Air wording for a two aircraft formation(....Pilot ejects and "the second aircraft landed safely".
Uh....either Lead ejected...or the Wing Man ejected....and the witness Pilot saw nothing....heard nothing....and returned to land normally....without saying nothing?
Now that would be odd sure enough.
In formation flight....does only one aircraft in the formation emit IFF signals or in this case perhaps....Civilian Transponder signals?
If so....was the downed aircraft the one that was not the emitter in the formation.
Is this going to turn out to be something similar to this USAF event except the Pilot showed up as a hitchhiker?
https://warisboring.com/thunder-on-t...and-its-pilot/
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Originally Posted by Mogwi
Warning, thread drift.
“G-XXXX, Bournemouth Radar, what is your position?”
“G-XX is 8 miles north at 1500ft”
“G-XX, we can’t see you on radar.”
”That’s because I’m made of wood”
”???????????????”
True exchange!
Mog
Warning, thread drift.
“G-XXXX, Bournemouth Radar, what is your position?”
“G-XX is 8 miles north at 1500ft”
“G-XX, we can’t see you on radar.”
”That’s because I’m made of wood”
”???????????????”
True exchange!
Mog
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Cost of an F35
It’s funny that the BBC reported the cost of an F35 as almost £100 Million when the RAF/RN lost one. But when the USMC lose one it reportedly costs $80 Million. It’s funny how the narrative can change the cost so markedly.
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
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It’s funny that the BBC reported the cost of an F35 as almost £100 Million when the RAF/RN lost one. But when the USMC lose one it reportedly costs $80 Million. It’s funny how the narrative can change the cost so markedly.
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
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Lots of questions for sure.
Section Takeoff (Naval Air wording for a two aircraft formation(....Pilot ejects and "the second aircraft landed safely".
Uh....either Lead ejected...or the Wing Man ejected....and the witness Pilot saw nothing....heard nothing....and returned to land normally....without saying nothing?
Now that would be odd sure enough.
In formation flight....does only one aircraft in the formation emit IFF signals or in this case perhaps....Civilian Transponder signals?
If so....was the downed aircraft the one that was not the emitter in the formation.
Is this going to turn out to be something similar to this USAF event except the Pilot showed up as a hitchhiker?
https://warisboring.com/thunder-on-t...and-its-pilot/
Section Takeoff (Naval Air wording for a two aircraft formation(....Pilot ejects and "the second aircraft landed safely".
Uh....either Lead ejected...or the Wing Man ejected....and the witness Pilot saw nothing....heard nothing....and returned to land normally....without saying nothing?
Now that would be odd sure enough.
In formation flight....does only one aircraft in the formation emit IFF signals or in this case perhaps....Civilian Transponder signals?
If so....was the downed aircraft the one that was not the emitter in the formation.
Is this going to turn out to be something similar to this USAF event except the Pilot showed up as a hitchhiker?
https://warisboring.com/thunder-on-t...and-its-pilot/
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It’s funny that the BBC reported the cost of an F35 as almost £100 Million when the RAF/RN lost one. But when the USMC lose one it reportedly costs $80 Million. It’s funny how the narrative can change the cost so markedly.
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
BV
(Yes I understand the principle of economies of scale and my tongue is firmly in cheek anyway).
In March 2020, defence minister Jeremy Quin stated the price of an F-35B was $115m (about £88.8m when using UK Government March 2020 exchange rates), covering airframe and engine cost.
He added that this figure "represents a 24% price reduction from our first aircraft ordered", with the expectation that the "downward trend" regarding the cost would continue.
He added that this figure "represents a 24% price reduction from our first aircraft ordered", with the expectation that the "downward trend" regarding the cost would continue.
https://www.forces.net/news/what-you...ow-about-f-35b
Lake Marion has South Carolina's largest population of Alligators it seems, with Lake Moultrie, the 2nd largest. The jet might stay lost
https://www.theitem.com/stories/lake...ulation,400014
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If there’s a Russian sub waiting for you, you’d surely set your autopilot to go the other way, towards the Atlantic. (Fewer alligators too)
Hard to believe that no one saw anything. (Shades of Men in Black)
Hard to believe that no one saw anything. (Shades of Men in Black)
Tango and Cash
Talk in some reports is that the weather was "bad"/"poor"..maybe this is actually one instance where the METAR might be relevant to members of the Pprune AAIB.
I have questions along those same lines too... what's the protocol for the wingman in this situation? Circle the downed pilot to assist with search and rescue? Or would there be the thought of "oh $h*&, that thing's flying on its own, I'd better keep track of where it's headed"? Doesn't sound like either of those happened based on the media reports so far. Maybe the wingman wasn't in visual range when the ejection happened?
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I watched the T bird back seat ejecting over Wildenrath. I think it was around midday shift change on a Friday in 1975 ( 1976?.). The aircraft overflew the airfield with heavy porpoising, the back seat ejection cleared the fault and the front seat pilot landed and taxied into 3F Sgn line. He was obviously shock up and needed help to make his seat safe before climbing out.
I spent many weeks working on the aircraft as part of the team trying to flush the hydraulic system. Whilst doing so, I watched a single seat GR3 ejection on take off - the start of the 3rd stage LP Stators issue that plagued the fleet for many years. Both pilots were ok.
I spent many weeks working on the aircraft as part of the team trying to flush the hydraulic system. Whilst doing so, I watched a single seat GR3 ejection on take off - the start of the 3rd stage LP Stators issue that plagued the fleet for many years. Both pilots were ok.
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“If you have any information that may help our recovery teams locate the F-35, please call the Base Defense Operations Center,”
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