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Accident to 658 Sqdn AAC Dauphin?

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Old 4th Aug 2023, 08:45
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Accident to 658 Sqdn AAC Dauphin?

Does anyone have any information about the circumstances of the apparent loss of a 658 Sqdn AAC AS365N3 Dauphin ZJ781 on 16 June 2022?
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:05
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This was posted on "Fighter Control" yesterday:

Article released today, looks like ZJ781 was 'damaged beyond repair' on 16/6/2022.

https://helihub.com/2023/08/03/uk-army- ... -accident/
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IMHO given it wasn't announced at the time and who could have been onboard, what they might have been doing, and potentially where they were doing it, I doubt any information will be put into the public domain in the near future for OPSEC reasons. I may be wildly wrong though.

HeliHub.com contacted the UK Ministry of Defence, who confirmed that this aircraft had an accident on 16th June 2022
I hope no one lost their lives or suffered life changing injuries.
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I gather a wheels up landing then roll over
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I gather a wheels up landing then roll over
that would do it!
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Daisies must`ve looked very `big`....
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Standards must have fallen since I was teaching them.......
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"Standards must have fallen since I was teaching them......."

I could see that coming at 0846
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Originally Posted by PUP
I could see that coming at 0846
Zulu, presumably.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 21:53
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I could see that coming at 0846
Very prescient of you, the OP posted earlier depending on your time zone.

658 has had a mixed bag of incidents in recent years - some due to the lowering levels of experience across the whole AAC
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Very prescient of you, the OP posted earlier depending on your time zone.

658 has had a mixed bag of incidents in recent years - some due to the lowering levels of experience across the whole AAC
so.... lowering levels of experience has an inverse correlation to lowering gear? Would think that needing something to land and taxi on is agnostic to experience, the daisies do look bigger don't they....

As a community we have been dealing with that since the first time wheels were made waggly. Experience doesn't normally come into the equation as much as distraction, task saturation, etc. although experience does give the grey hairs to be aware of approaching such conditions, mainly because it's been done before.

"we made it 100 yards further than last time" as the beaver pilot said to his passengers, unstrapping from the wreckage wrapped in the trees around the Canadian lake.
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Our check and trainer flew Mustangs and Meteors in Korea and unfortunately landed a 76 gear up, pulled into hover and put them down, only damage being belly mounted antenna pushed through the skin. John Deakin, the worlds highest hour 747 pilot, has a good story of nearly landing a 747 gear up at LAX, crew were all check and trainers, don't matter who you are it can happen to you.
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Amen.
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And it would appear that the experience level in the cockpit was very high in this case so it can happen to anyone...
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There are two kinds of pilots………

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From the UK Serials website (who seem to have very good contacts), the accident happened as described in #4 at Shobdon

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Seems legit as we all know that if you relax the controls within a 20 mile radius you always find yourself within the Shobden Magnet.
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Ah yes - the Shobdon Magnet and the Tewksbury Triangle! Well know "Where the heck am I?" LL areas in the pre-GPS era!
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