Air Tattoo and Argentine Air Force
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Air Tattoo and Argentine Air Force
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...rcraft-8508743
Argentine Air Force Boeing 737-700 TC-99 was invited to Air Tattoo 2023. The first time an AAF aircraft was there since 1981 (BTW, the AAF Herc crew won the best non-ASW crew award that year). But was rejected later, because the Boeing name is"Islas Malvinas".
Argentine Air Force Boeing 737-700 TC-99 was invited to Air Tattoo 2023. The first time an AAF aircraft was there since 1981 (BTW, the AAF Herc crew won the best non-ASW crew award that year). But was rejected later, because the Boeing name is"Islas Malvinas".
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Not quite right.
In about 1985, an Argentine Navy P3 visited Farnborough and stayed overnight.
Next morning it went off somewhere else, (can't remember where) and on return the CO took over the radio and read out a pre-prepared statement from the FCO stating that the aircraft was not permitted to land back at Farnborough so it diverted elsewhere, not sure but it might have been Brize.
Naturally it was all kept very quiet at the time but the local spotters noticed anyway.
In about 1985, an Argentine Navy P3 visited Farnborough and stayed overnight.
Next morning it went off somewhere else, (can't remember where) and on return the CO took over the radio and read out a pre-prepared statement from the FCO stating that the aircraft was not permitted to land back at Farnborough so it diverted elsewhere, not sure but it might have been Brize.
Naturally it was all kept very quiet at the time but the local spotters noticed anyway.
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Maybe an Orion? Argentina Navy had P-3Bs since the late 90s.
But I meant Air Tattoo. Other Argentine aircraft visited the UK since the 1982 war.
A Nimrod was in Espora also, in 1999:
But I meant Air Tattoo. Other Argentine aircraft visited the UK since the 1982 war.
A Nimrod was in Espora also, in 1999:
Not forgetting the Voyager that brought teams to assist in the sadly fruitless search for ARA San Juan in 2017. This seems a missed opportunity to consign old emnities to the past just for the sake of a controversial name. Couldn't it be renamed 'Evita' or something for the duration of the visit? Visitors would flock to see it and it'd be great PR for Argentina.
It wasn't long after the Falklands war; we (ATC) were civilians but the aircrew were all military and not surpisingly they weren't too happy about it but maybe it was a year or two later.
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Argentina Navy flew Orion since 1997.
Sorry for the confusion, I meant it was possibly an Electra (Argentina used Electra as MPA after the 1982 war, and cargo models even before)
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Sorry for the confusion, I meant it was possibly an Electra (Argentina used Electra as MPA after the 1982 war, and cargo models even before)
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Not forgetting the Voyager that brought teams to assist in the sadly fruitless search for ARA San Juan in 2017. This seems a missed opportunity to consign old emnities to the past just for the sake of a controversial name. Couldn't it be renamed 'Evita' or something for the duration of the visit? Visitors would flock to see it and it'd be great PR for Argentina.
Personally I'd have let them in as EVERYONE knows the position of the two sides and it doesn't change a thing, really - but it does look like a deliberate attempt to stir things up
Definitely 4 smoky noisy engines using an 'Argentine Navy' callsign and the flight plan showed 'P3'. I was there and I saw and heard it.
But that's the point THEY chose to send plane with the Islas Malvinas name on it knowing it would cause trouble.
Personally I'd have let them in as EVERYONE knows the position of the two sides and it doesn't change a thing, really - but it does look like a deliberate attempt to stir things up
Personally I'd have let them in as EVERYONE knows the position of the two sides and it doesn't change a thing, really - but it does look like a deliberate attempt to stir things up
But that's the point THEY chose to send plane with the Islas Malvinas name on it knowing it would cause trouble.
1A-63 Pampa two-seater jet
If I remember rightly -- I thought a 1A-63 Pampa two-seater jet crashed at Hurn airport in 1992.
Commander Juan Carlos Sapolsky, the pilot, and Captain Omar Dario Gelardi, were killed instantly.
The aircraft was here for Farnborough air show.
Commander Juan Carlos Sapolsky, the pilot, and Captain Omar Dario Gelardi, were killed instantly.
The aircraft was here for Farnborough air show.
I suspect the invite would have been for any aircraft that had the legs to get here; that would be very limiting.
The aircraft has been in Argentine service since 2021 and, I think, received its name immediately.
To be fair, as fair as I know it's only been confirmed that it isn't coming to RIAT; no reason has been given. There could be any number of reasons for its non-appearance.
The aircraft has been in Argentine service since 2021 and, I think, received its name immediately.
To be fair, as fair as I know it's only been confirmed that it isn't coming to RIAT; no reason has been given. There could be any number of reasons for its non-appearance.
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Earliest Farnborough participant from Argentina I remember was a Pucara in 1976.
Strangely I don't remember the tragedy of the Pampa although I compiled the flying display programme in 1992 so I should have known about it.
Strangely I don't remember the tragedy of the Pampa although I compiled the flying display programme in 1992 so I should have known about it.
Last edited by chevvron; 14th Jun 2023 at 10:32.
Originally Posted by Marcantilan
Argentina Navy flew Orion since 1997.
Sorry for the confusion, I meant it was possibly an Electra (Argentina used Electra as MPA after the 1982 war, and cargo models even before)
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Argentina Navy flew Orion since 1997.
Sorry for the confusion, I meant it was possibly an Electra (Argentina used Electra as MPA after the 1982 war, and cargo models even before)
Best!
for some, but not all Argentineans, it reinforces their sense that we don't treat them fairly. And it plays well in the popular press who don't give a stuff about airshows etc
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The gossip (I stress: gossip) that has been going around here is that both countries gave the go-ahead and that veterans' associations in the UK complained about a plane with that name coming over. The plane was disinvited and that was that.
The AAF didn't have much more to send, the planes are more for a flying museum than anything else because of their age.
The AAF didn't have much more to send, the planes are more for a flying museum than anything else because of their age.
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