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Are RAF pilots not permitted to vote ?

Old 5th Apr 2023, 08:29
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You mean you don’t know?
I was the one that had to explain it!
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 08:35
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How long ago is it that you could get through all the training and earn your wings and still be under 21?
1967. Wings, both fixed-wing and rotary, 7 months in Aden, GSM (I was there medal), and still only 20.
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 08:36
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NAVs are alright BUT would you let YOUR daughter (son!) marry one!
Do “Navs” still actually exist? I thought they had all been replaced by a phone app and their equivalent mass in fuel….


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There is a problem with replacing navs with a phone app. If ever in a survival situation, you can't eat the phone app.
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 08:50
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Actually, I think we have found the answer. This guy’s navigator told him that he couldn’t vote because he was a pilot and he believed it. And believes it to this day.
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 08:56
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But can an App carry your bags into the hotel, buy the first beer, and engage in scintillatingly witty but droll badinage with the ugly, less attractive, the unprepossessing one of the pair of 'ladies' frequenting the bar of said hotel?!? Je crois que non, as they don't necessarily say 'down our way'!!!
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Originally Posted by Herod
There is a problem with replacing navs with a phone app. If ever in a survival situation, you can't eat the phone app.
So which is nicer, fresh roast pilot with a selection of seasonal herbs and vegetables or raw and badly butchered navigator?
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 09:08
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They can, but only if they have Mummy with them to hold their hand.
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 09:26
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Thanks for the replies, the era concerned would have been mid ‘50’s to mid ‘70’s although it doesn’t sound like that makes a difference
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https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/sold...litary-voters/
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
How long ago is it that you could get through all the training and earn your wings and still be under 21?
Stilton never mentioned him being trained let alone having got his wings, just that he was 'serving'.
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 10:13
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Stilton never mentioned him being trained let alone having got his wings, just that he was 'serving'.
I think we have established he can vote if he is serving,
The question than arose of when a serving pilot might not have been able to vote and it was suggested that the cut off conditiom were pre 1970 (possibly '69 as that is when the age of majority changed IIRC), aged under 21. My question was aimed at seeing how far back we would have to go to find a serving pilot under the age of 21. If I have it aright, that would required the pilot to be a non graduate and have passed through the flying training system before the age of 21.
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AFAIR, during NS the time to wings was typically about 18-20 months, so we surely must have a Ppruner who had his wings before age 20. Since you could also ask to be called up before 18, he may even have completed his 2 years by the time he was 20.
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No stick no vote? Oh then we discovered CRM😀
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 11:12
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AFAIR, during NS the time to wings was typically about 18-20 months, so we surely must have a Ppruner who had his wings before age 20. Since you could also ask to be called up before 18, he may even have completed his 2 years by the time he was 20.
Does that include IOT?
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 11:17
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Possibly the restriction which Stilton's friend experienced was the complicated method of indicating choice of candidate at the polling station?
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Perhaps the ex pilot in question was also a member of the House of Lords, like lunatics and prisoners, they have no vote.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Stilton never mentioned him being trained let alone having got his wings, just that he was 'serving'.
Maybe he didn’t serve beyond the age of 21.
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As I recall from history, the GE of 1945 took so long to announce the winner because of the collation of Service voters serving overseas.
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Ex-2-wing blunderer here; since 1972 I have exercised my right to vote from places as varied as Hong Kong, NI, Oman, Brunei, Kuwait and, er, West Devon. No point criticising the government of the day if you can't be bothered to take part in the electoral process - I wish we had the Australian compulsory-voting system.

AFAIR, during NS the time to wings was typically about 18-20 months, so we surely must have a Ppruner who had his wings before age 20. Since you could also ask to be called up before 18, he may even have completed his 2 years by the time he was 20.
I just checked various sources on t'interweb (Wikipedia, unusually, not the most helpful for this particular one) and confirmed that writer Frederick Forsyth qualified as an RAF pilot at 19 and went on to fly fighters (Vampire?). He was born in 1938 and left the RAF in 1958, so it looks like 'binbrook' was correct.
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