RAF Rivet joint and the SU-27s
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RAF Rivet joint and the SU-27s
BREAKING: Defence Secretary Ben Wallace tells MPs that on September 29 an RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint spy plane was being shadowed by two Russian Su-27s in international airspace when one of the Su-27s "released a missle in the vicinity of the Rivet Joint".
Rivet Joint patrols were suspended, the Russians blamed a "technical malfunction" for the missile being released (?!). Patrols have restarted but the Rivet Joints are now escorted by fighter jets, MPs have been told…..
Rivet Joint patrols were suspended, the Russians blamed a "technical malfunction" for the missile being released (?!). Patrols have restarted but the Rivet Joints are now escorted by fighter jets, MPs have been told…..
To counter the drones with 40kg non armour piercin warheads that use GPS i propose chicken wire fencing around energy infrastrucure targets. When i drove around GCHQ in Cheltenham i am sure my car GPS was not working there so gps and glonass can be jammed.. This seems more cost effective than using high tech and expensive ordinance to take them out?
So either Russia are admitting that pilot training is poor enough that a missile was released accidentally, their maintenance is poor enough that the missile just fell off mid-flight, or they are lying. Which could it be . . .
A Russian aircraft on Sept. 29 released a missile near a British aircraft patrolling in international airspace over the Black Sea, the Defence Secretary, has revealed.
Ben Wallace told parliament Britain had suspended patrols following the incident involving an unarmed RAF RC-135W Rivet Joint spy plane, which was on a routine patrol when it was intercepted by two Russian SU 27 fighter aircraft.
One of the Russian jets fired a missile from beyond the visual range of the RAF plane, Mr Wallace said.
Mr Wallace said he wrote to his counterpart and the chief of defence staff in Moscow about what was a “potentially dangerous engagement” to express his concerns.
On October 10 Moscow replied, stating that they had conducted an investigation and put the engagement down to a “technical malfunction”. Moscow acknowledged the incident took place in international airspace.
Britain has now resumed patrols, which now have fighter aircraft escorts, he added.
Ben Wallace told parliament Britain had suspended patrols following the incident involving an unarmed RAF RC-135W Rivet Joint spy plane, which was on a routine patrol when it was intercepted by two Russian SU 27 fighter aircraft.
One of the Russian jets fired a missile from beyond the visual range of the RAF plane, Mr Wallace said.
Mr Wallace said he wrote to his counterpart and the chief of defence staff in Moscow about what was a “potentially dangerous engagement” to express his concerns.
On October 10 Moscow replied, stating that they had conducted an investigation and put the engagement down to a “technical malfunction”. Moscow acknowledged the incident took place in international airspace.
Britain has now resumed patrols, which now have fighter aircraft escorts, he added.
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Reported on LBC at about 1230 that during a Rivet Joint sortie recently, an Su27 went home with one less missile than it started with.
The Kremlin reports it was a 'malfunction'.
Mods please merge if it's already been covered.
The Kremlin reports it was a 'malfunction'.
Mods please merge if it's already been covered.
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Wouldn't be surprised if it was a combination of all of the above....!
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A Russian aircraft fired a missile `near` the Rivett Joint aircraft while in international waters.
Happened in September. Russia claims technical issue.
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Happened in September. Russia claims technical issue.
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Fire for effect with a radar BVR missile from long range without a lock, or breaking lock, to force a “hostile “ to react and turn away.
The hostile has to honour the threat and break away.
A very hard nosed warning.
The hostile has to honour the threat and break away.
A very hard nosed warning.
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So either Russia are admitting that pilot training is poor enough that a missile was released accidentally, their maintenance is poor enough that the missile just fell off mid-flight, or they are lying. Which could it be . . .
Presumably the Rivet Joint has the Tape of the incident ( that’s it’s job after all). Whether the incident was an accident or a warning to go away, should be fairly clear.
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Potential track of the aircraft involved: https://twitter.com/air_intel/status...59425006604288
Glad everyone got home.
If - a big IF but stick with me - it was a technical malfunction and not a 'signal' - they better hope it doesn't happen with a fighter escort present.
Pretty sure that having a hostile jet release a missile in the vicinity of friendly that you've been tasked to protect would prompt return fire. Things could rapidly get pretty nasty after that.
Pretty sure that having a hostile jet release a missile in the vicinity of friendly that you've been tasked to protect would prompt return fire. Things could rapidly get pretty nasty after that.
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If - a big IF but stick with me - it was a technical malfunction and not a 'signal' - they better hope it doesn't happen with a fighter escort present.
Pretty sure that having a hostile jet release a missile in the vicinity of friendly that you've been tasked to protect would prompt return fire. Things could rapidly get pretty nasty after that.
Pretty sure that having a hostile jet release a missile in the vicinity of friendly that you've been tasked to protect would prompt return fire. Things could rapidly get pretty nasty after that.