A new Meteorology
Interestingly, almost all commercial aircraft provide atmospheric data automatically, in real time, in flight, the data being relayed through the ACARS system and widely distributed. This allows reasonably accurate modelling of air masses, including jetstreams (in 3 dimensions) and their movements. This is useful for surface weather forecasting, in flight safety (turbulence reports and forecasts) and also economically important for fuel efficient routing.
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Apart from establishing records of slight value to man or beast, perhaps the arbitrary accuracies sought are meaningless: what is a couple of knots, a 3 degree wind veer/back, a decimal point of a degree C., a tenth of a millibar [or whatever they are called] in the scheme of things
Isn't that the butterfly effect?
Apart from establishing records of slight value to man or beast, perhaps the arbitrary accuracies sought are meaningless: what is a couple of knots, a 3 degree wind veer/back, a decimal point of a degree C., a tenth of a millibar [or whatever they are called] in the scheme of things
Isn't that the butterfly effect?
We used to call it the “Bob’s BBQ Effect” all is well. Bob fires up the BBQ. Suddenly… TCU, Rain, wind large hail ect. Forest fires often form their own weather too.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston;
Apart from establishing records of slight value to man or beast, perhaps the arbitrary accuracies sought are meaningless: what is a couple of knots, a 3 degree wind veer/back, a decimal point of a degree C., a tenth of a millibar [or whatever they are called
Apart from establishing records of slight value to man or beast, perhaps the arbitrary accuracies sought are meaningless: what is a couple of knots, a 3 degree wind veer/back, a decimal point of a degree C., a tenth of a millibar [or whatever they are called
in the scheme of things
Isn't that the butterfly effect?
Isn't that the butterfly effect?
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[QUOTE=albatross;11265494]We used to call it the “Bob’s BBQ Effect” all is well. Bob fires up the BBQ. Suddenly… TCU, Rain, wind large hail ect. Forest fires often form their own weather too.
. Yes, but measuring to such fine tolerances will not IMHO, help forecasting very much!
. Yes, but measuring to such fine tolerances will not IMHO, help forecasting very much!
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Interestingly, almost all commercial aircraft provide atmospheric data automatically, in real time, in flight, the data being relayed through the ACARS system and widely distributed. This allows reasonably accurate modelling of air masses, including jetstreams (in 3 dimensions) and their movements. This is useful for surface weather forecasting, in flight safety (turbulence reports and forecasts) and also economically important for fuel efficient routing.
CAT is another beast: two aircraft close in time and space can have two very different experiences: the Met Research Flight Snoopy Hercules apparently spent time and effort CAT hunting.
CAT is like one fish in a shoal in a sea.
A very good friend of mine earned a good OBE pioneering the integration of such reports into modelling and then redistributing the results to aviation.
CAT is another beast: two aircraft close in time and space can have two very different experiences: the Met Research Flight Snoopy Hercules apparently spent time and effort CAT hunting.
CAT is like one fish in a shoal in a sea.
CAT is another beast: two aircraft close in time and space can have two very different experiences: the Met Research Flight Snoopy Hercules apparently spent time and effort CAT hunting.
CAT is like one fish in a shoal in a sea.
[QUOTE=albatross;11265494]We used to call it the “Bob’s BBQ Effect” all is well. Bob fires up the BBQ. Suddenly… TCU, Rain, wind large hail ect. Forest fires often form their own weather too.
. I have seen a stubble fire do it in the days when farmers were allowed to burn stubble. Great for thermals but a bit smoky and smelly.
. I have seen a stubble fire do it in the days when farmers were allowed to burn stubble. Great for thermals but a bit smoky and smelly.
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Inter alia, he saved my arse and career by refusing to sign through a very unwise outburst of mine. "Tact and diplomacy were seemingly omitted in your education, Caractacus."
I raise a glass.
