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Aircraft Not Designed For But Operating From Aircraft Carriers

Old 27th May 2022, 23:02
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Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?
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Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?
My guess would be Douglas Skyraider AEW.1

Although a Whirlwind HAS 7 or HAR 7 might have been the last piston engine to land on a deck, no hook involved.

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Old 28th May 2022, 14:15
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This video would give rise to some claims.....piston powered aircraft making an arrested landing without a Tail Hook.....some real precision flying but I am not sure it would be considered "Hi-stress" by modern standards.


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Wow ... COD, the early days!

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Ken Wallis flew his autogiro off the back of the Isle of White ferry as a demo....
I tried to get the concept across of autogiros flying off and on fast patrol boats in littoral temperate waters ( e.g Gulf, Far East ) .The idea being that they could extend the boat's visual range and engage targets (smugglers etc.) with diversive weaponry whilst the boat caught up.

RN rep.. of course kept blindly trotting out "Winter North Atlantic" as a mantra ...............

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They did, and without the benefit of hooks.
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Similar to this done by the German Navy during WWII?





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The Focke Achgelis Bachstelze rotor kite was unpowered and towed on a cable aloft behind a U Boat to provide an increased circle of vision. I was surprised how many survived the War . Ken Wallis was certainly well familiar with the type.!
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I believe the Tiger Club hatched a plan to try and land a couple of Turbulents on a carrier in the '60s or early '70s - think it may have been with the connivance of Pete Sheppard - but Their Warships said no...
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Old 29th May 2022, 09:41
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The Focke Achgelis Bachstelze rotor kite was unpowered and towed on a cable aloft behind a U Boat to provide an increased circle of vision. I was surprised how many survived the War . Ken Wallis was certainly well familiar with the type.!
Looks more Nike than Kriegsmarine.....​​​​​​

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RAF Calshot couldn't find a U boat for the AFEE trials of the Fa 330.
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Old 30th May 2022, 14:39
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Originally Posted by sycamore View Post
Anybody any idea what was the last piston-engined aircraft to `take the wire` on a British carrier,and when...? and take-off...?
I'd guess Grumman Trader from Ark Royal in 1972, unless someone knows of a later Trader/Tracker operation

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Davef68,thanks for that,and ,as I had forgotten about `cross-dressers,sorry cross-deckers`,I should actually have narrowed it a bit to `British,single-engine piston...etc...apologies for that...
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I'd guess Grumman Trader from Ark Royal in 1972, unless someone knows of a later Trader/Tracker operation
Speaking of cross decking, I am aware of the UK and US forces doing so but did the Canadians and Dutch do much cross decking with the UK Aircraft carriers before they got out of the fixed wing carrier game? Argentina? (before 1992 obviously)- I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.
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Didn’t the Americans operate artillery spotting Piper Cubs / Taylorcraft off of LSTs fitted with a rudimentary flight deck during WW2?
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Originally Posted by lightonthewater View Post
From memory, Eric Brown's book stated that he landed a DH Mosquito on a carrier (and took off again).
And/or a Hornet.
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Originally Posted by sandiego89 View Post
Speaking of cross decking, I am aware of the UK and US forces doing so but did the Canadians and Dutch do much cross decking with the UK Aircraft carriers before they got out of the fixed wing carrier game? Argentina? (before 1992 obviously)- I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.
Even earlier than that, I suggest.

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Originally Posted by sandiego89 View Post
I am aware John Farley demonstrated G-VTOL or another Harrier on the 25 de Mayo on its way south after being sold.
Too early for G-VTOL - RAF GR1 XV757 in 1969

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Originally Posted by Haraka View Post
Ken Wallis flew his autogiro off the back of the Isle of White ferry as a demo....
I tried to get the concept across of autogiros flying off and on fast patrol boats in littoral temperate waters ( e.g Gulf, Far East ) .The idea being that they could extend the boat's visual range and engage targets (smugglers etc.) with diversive weaponry whilst the boat caught up.

RN rep.. of course kept blindly trotting out "Winter North Atlantic" as a mantra ...............
Autogyros were trialed off an RN ship in 1942.

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Gloster Meteor F3 flying from HMS Implacable June 48


Ok it did have a specially modified landing gear and hook.
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