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Old 3rd May 2022, 13:19
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Do another trip, Sir! A very good repair and the aircraft was used later to attack some helos. Mog
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That was quick as a flash! Thank you sir!
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Mog, having come from the GR world did you notice any differences or have to make any adjustments when flying SHAR in mud moving mode?
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Didn't you also take a 7.62 round through a Wessex rotor blade in earlier life in NornIrn, Mog?
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Originally Posted by Ken Scott
Seems like quite a lot of work to patch it up, Just file off the rough edges and apply speed tape, surely?!
Speed Tape doesn't restore the structural strength of the damaged area, that is the overriding purpose of ABDR (now Expedient Repair). As mentioned by Longer Ron, the internal structure needed to be repaired to restore the integrity of the internal structure. I had a chat with the guy that did the repairs on what they used and how it compared to the repairs I was involved with during GW1. Standard external ABDR patch covering the holes with internal structure repaired by sheet and internal rib load paths replaced by an external stringer and the old ABDR rivet formula. Stuff I was taught on the crash course we did at Abo in 1990.
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Didn't you also take a 7.62 round through a Wessex rotor blade in earlier life in NornIrn, Mog?
Errant crewman?

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Nope - incoming round. Perhaps from a Tommy?
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I was fired at during a night troop lift outside Armagh but they missed! Quite pretty actually, until I realised what it was. Got my own back with a couple of milk bottles over the Falls Road - they make a very fine whistling noise on the way down,
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Mog, having come from the GR world did you notice any differences or have to make any adjustments when flying SHAR in mud moving mode?
Yes, there were differences: No moving map made nav more tricky and the A/G aiming system was (initially) pretty crude. This was improved dramatically in short order and ended up being somewhat better than the GR3. Rearward view was much better than GR3, which vastly improved lookout in a hostile environment.

One snag was that SHAR training for ground attack was cursory during conversion and CBUs were not even in the RN inventory, so a bit of rapid briefing was required. Luckily there was a substantial cadre of ex-mud-movers from previous types (inc GR3) so we managed pretty well.

Soon decided that AD was safer and more fun though!

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Salute!

Nice hole in the jet, Mog!

Looks like a .50 cal or 12.7 API or maybe a wimp 20mm thing. The pic resembles those I saw mostly. As long as they didn't hit a spar or half-empty fuel tank, very survivable.

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Theres an interesting article on BBC with apparently photos that has never before been published. Theres an interesting picture of Pucaras on Port Stanley after the hostilities seized. They've received quite a lot of battering and I can't quite get it why they were parked in such a tight formation (assuming they are as they were left by the Argentinians).



see the full set here: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-61220530
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Did the RAF ever fly any of the Pucaras that we salvaged from the Falklands.
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Friend of mine was driving a Beaver one day, admiring the view, when some of the locals took exception to his scenic tour in that part of the Province ...this upset him a bit, so, a couple of days later, he took the same scenic tour but this time, invited some friends on the ground along to watch his flying skills ...seemingly, thereafter, his scenic tours of the area continued undisturbed .

As for BDR / Expedient repair, as somebody who participated in the, very, embryonic basic trials and development in Germany, and whilst some of our basics remain, the development of the techniques and materials used, along with the rapidity, makes for a fascinating "contrast and compare " exercise....came in useful it seems.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Did the RAF ever fly any of the Pucaras that we salvaged from the Falklands.
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I recall bringing some very 'rusty' looking bombs back from the Falklands in the C130K. Chalked on them were the words 'X-rayed fit return UK one flight only'. I do not know whether they were Argentinian or UK. Rather concentrated the mind !
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Originally Posted by ancientaviator62
I recall bringing some very 'rusty' looking bombs back from the Falklands in the C130K. Chalked on them were the words 'X-rayed fit return UK one flight only'. I do not know whether they were Argentinian or UK. Rather concentrated the mind !
One hoped Hoskins wasn't doing the landing.
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Old 5th May 2022, 10:26
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invited some friends on the ground along to watch his flying skills
Ah yes, the Spotters Aviation Society were very good at changing people's perceptions about that sort of thing
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I recall bringing some very 'rusty' looking bombs back from the Falklands in the C130K. Chalked on them were the words 'X-rayed fit return UK one flight only'. I do not know whether they were Argentinian or UK. Rather concentrated the mind !
This reminds me of the apparent debate between the crew of the C-130 that retrieved the shrike missile from Rio, from the Vulcan that ended up there and departed without it, for transportation back to Ascension. I seem to recall there was some debate as to which direction to point the missile.
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Old 5th May 2022, 11:07
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My 1983 FI not-very-warry souvenirs:

1. Speedo of my LWB Landy, which I rendered u/s by travelling too fast and overloaded with pax.
2. Essential souvenir Mug from the shop.
3. Post-conflict new issue £1 note.
4. Falklands Rock [non edible variety] recovered from Stanley runway after Quarry-blasting.

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Old 5th May 2022, 11:44
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Originally Posted by AndySmith
This reminds me of the apparent debate between the crew of the C-130 that retrieved the shrike missile from Rio, from the Vulcan that ended up there and departed without it, for transportation back to Ascension. I seem to recall there was some debate as to which direction to point the missile.
Wasn't that the one diasrmed by the crew with an idiots guide sent to them that started along the lines of "standing in front of the missile with the pointy end to the left".
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