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Unannounced French Incursion into UK airspace?

Old 4th Mar 2022, 16:18
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But it is spelt Azincourt at the site of the battle and that must carry some weight

would that be metric or avoirdupois??
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Originally Posted by Fournierf5 View Post
would that be metric or avoirdupois??
Pre Napoleon - aviordupois or 'ave some peas.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 18:36
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Practice QRA. I've seen the Tiffies follow them back into French airspace in the past.
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...that's just to take advantage of the Duty Free
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I assumed practice QRA but as it started so far inland I did wonder if nos amis were experiencing communication or other difficulties e.g. equipment failure causing navigational uncertainty.

<History/Philology Lesson>Agincourt/Azincourt wasn't in France until the County of Artois was annexed in the late 17th Century, so the local language was Picard or possibly Middle Dutch, I assume the English pronunciation is due to a confusion of the letters yogh and zed - similar to the reason Mingiss is spelt Menzies.</Lesson>

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Austerlitz? I am a little more modern and tend to remember D-Day when we bailed the French out of the poo
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The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.
The tally on both sides may be much higher than 2:2.

Having RN heritage, we won't discuss their role in the Falklands working with and against us simultaneously.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 22:35
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice.
Doesn't matter how often who beat whom, what matters is who won last.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 23:58
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This forum is for Military Aviation. It is not an extension of the Daily Mail and Daily Express comments sections for the petty expression of hatred towards our French allies. Grow up.
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Originally Posted by SLXOwft View Post
I assumed practice QRA but as it started so far inland I did wonder if nos amis were experiencing communication or other difficulties e.g. equipment failure causing navigational uncertainty.

<History/Philology Lesson>Agincourt/Azincourt wasn't in France until the County of Artois was annexed in the late 17th Century, so the local language was Picard or possibly Middle Dutch, I assume the English pronunciation is due to a confusion of the letters yogh and zed - similar to the reason Mingiss is spelt Menzies.</Lesson>

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Wiki says you are wrong. The battle was in 1415 when Artois was in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Artois.

The County of Artois (French: comté d'Artois, Dutch: graafschap Artesië) was a historic province of the Kingdom of France, held by the Dukes of Burgundy from 1384 until 1477/82, and a state of the Holy Roman Empire from 1493 until 1659.
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"The French have never forgiven us for beating them twice and saving them twice."

I can never forgive the incompetents who managed to lose half of France in the 100 years War - all the best wine country for a start.......................
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Does the winner not usually get to choose the spelling? Jus sayin....
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Tartiflette Fan - a fair cop, I tend to think of the Duchy of Burgundy and its provinces as an enemy of France in the period but intermarriage caused side changes c.f. Brittany. I was more thinking of the linguistic change, more a result the enforcement of monlithic culture post-revolution.

Asturias - My recollection from studying the 100 years war at university was that many of the English barons refused to fight in and provide taxes, for putting down what was an internal French rebellion, once there was a treaty which established the Kings of England as the the legitimate French Kings. Parallel to today - it is a French War not an English one, we're not obliged to get involved.

I've never understood why George IV gave up the claim to the French throne; I suppose the intention to put 'l'homme qui se dit roi de France' back on the throne made it daft.

Like Lord Raglan many Englishmen still seem to conflate the enemy and the French even when we are on the same side.

We do seem to have drifted along way...
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What a dull life you must lead - watching ADS-B Exchange! Go out and do something with your life my friend; we only get one, so make sure you live it to the best you can (which doesn’t involve watching ADS-B Apps!).
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Originally Posted by SLXOwft View Post
Tartiflette Fan - a fair cop, I tend to think of the Duchy of Burgundy and its provinces as an enemy of France in the period but intermarriage caused side changes c.f. Brittany. I was more thinking of the linguistic change, more a result the enforcement of monlithic culture post-revolution.

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Yer, I get that - like the boys from London always used to say " Sarf' end" when we knew it really was " Saaarf Ennd "

P.S. No complaints about the French throne until Ryanair starts fights to ???
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Originally Posted by Courtney Mil View Post
This forum is for Military Aviation. It is not an extension of the Daily Mail and Daily Express comments sections for the petty expression of hatred towards our French allies. Grow up.
Tout à fait, Courtney mon vieu!

Having worked with the FAF on several occasions, my opinion is that their professionalism and military skills are vraiment top notch!

And now back to les branleurs puérils who are ruining PPRuNe Mil these days.

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A like before it's censored like my last post on the BA tail scrape and a reply to a question as to whether p1 or p2 would fly the overshoot.
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Originally Posted by BEagle View Post
Tout à fait, Courtney mon vieu!

Having worked with the FAF on several occasions, my opinion is that their professionalism and military skills are vraiment top notch!

And now back to les branleurs puérils who are ruining PPRuNe Mil these days.
was that handing out 1000L of four star and some glasses?
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