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Prince Andrew Loses Military Titles

Old 14th Jan 2022, 19:25
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Originally Posted by Darkmouse View Post
I am entirely ambivalent about his plight, but I am confused about what he's in trouble for - is bedding a girl who was 17 at the time and therefore old enough to make her own mind up, who subsequently boasted to her friends about bedding a prince, some sort of offence? I'm not talking about the moral aspect here, but it strikes me that it wasn't against her will and it wasn't in way illegal - What's the problem?
You mean a previously abused child that was groomed and emotionally blackmailed by two abusers including a woman to justify what was being done, then trafficked ( transported) out of the country with her passport being held and introduced to the powerful and the famous?
Pressured into agreeing?
A Prince using his position and his friends in dark places to have sexual relations with a teenager the age of his own daughters?
You don’t see any problem with that?
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 19:32
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
You mean a previously abused child that was groomed and emotionally blackmailed by two abusers including a woman to justify what was being done, then trafficked ( transported) out of the country with her passport being held and introduced to the powerful and the famous?
Pressured into agreeing?
A Prince using his position and his friends in dark places to have sexual relations with a teenager the age of his own daughters?
You don’t see any problem with that?
It's worth doing a bit of research into Ms Roberts story (She's written a book), the MSM seem to be blind to the numerous inconsistencies in her story.
It's worth asking yourself why this is a civil case, not a criminal one.
Why she was never called in the Maxwell trial.

I'm no apologist for Randy Andy, but I do think he's become clickbait for a rabid mainstream media...
How on earth he'll ever get a fair trial in the US is a mystery.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
It's worth doing a bit of research into Ms Roberts story (She's written a book), the MSM seem to be blind to the numerous inconsistencies in her story.
It's worth asking yourself why this is a civil case, not a criminal one.
Why the US police have never mnoved forward with any charges against anyone having heard her story.
Why she was never called in the Maxwell trial.

I'm no apologist for Randy Andy, but I do think he's become clickbait for a rabid mainstream media...
How on earth he'll ever get a fair trial in the US is a mystery.
The answer

Giuffre filed a civil suit against Andrew on 9 August last year, using a New York state law that provides a window for survivors of childhood sexual abuse to sue, even if the alleged crimes took place outside the statute of limitations.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-happens-next

Fair trial? To begin with we don’t consider “royalty” to be holy and above the law of the commoners.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 19:57
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I wonder, can Epstein’s estate now sue her for the return of the cash payment due to breach of contract.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 20:03
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
You mean a previously abused child that was groomed and emotionally blackmailed by two abusers including a woman to justify what was being done, then trafficked ( transported) out of the country with her passport being held and introduced to the powerful and the famous?
Pressured into agreeing?
A Prince using his position and his friends in dark places to have sexual relations with a teenager the age of his own daughters?
You don’t see any problem with that?
I think the behaviour of the lot of them is disgusting, but you are supposing that it was as clear cut as Andrew asking for someone to be sent over for him. 17 year old girls and thinking with my dick aren't my thing, but if they were, I were single and a friend introduced me to one who seemingly had a penchant for middle aged helicopter pilots, would I be doing anything wrong?
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 20:14
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY View Post
I don't think it is an "age of consent" issue but one of "she didn't willingly consent" issue. Trafficked by Maxwell and Epstein for the pleasure of their rich and influential friends.
Just think of the bragging rights she scored......
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 20:18
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Originally Posted by packapoo View Post
Just think of the bragging rights she scored......
is that what you call it?
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