The Kazakhstan Thread
Salusa - you must be another one with a day job in the FSB if you believe that.
Funny how your own people suddenly become terrorists, radicals and trouble makers who can be shot on sight when you don't like what they are protesting about (mainly because it was your fault).
Putin never needs much of an excuse to deploy his troops and show his strength at home - he does seem an insecure individual, no wonder he and Trump got along.
Funny how your own people suddenly become terrorists, radicals and trouble makers who can be shot on sight when you don't like what they are protesting about (mainly because it was your fault).
Putin never needs much of an excuse to deploy his troops and show his strength at home - he does seem an insecure individual, no wonder he and Trump got along.
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A significant proportion of Kazakh citizens are ethnic Russian. A more significant proportion of the Kazakh population just want want stability.
I hold no firm opinion myself as to the true cause of the current unrest , but the news I am hearing from personal contacts in Kazakhstan is largely supportive for CSTO deployment.
The general opinion amongst those I am in contact with in Almaty is that Russian led CSTO intervention is welcome and required.
As a relative (pun intended) outsider I also support CSTO intervention.
Enough pussy footing around with radicals and trouble makers.
I hold no firm opinion myself as to the true cause of the current unrest , but the news I am hearing from personal contacts in Kazakhstan is largely supportive for CSTO deployment.
The general opinion amongst those I am in contact with in Almaty is that Russian led CSTO intervention is welcome and required.
As a relative (pun intended) outsider I also support CSTO intervention.
Enough pussy footing around with radicals and trouble makers.
From the World Population Review website
Kazakhstan Population History.
In the late 1800s, thousands of people from both Ukraine and Russia were brought into to settle the land that is modern-day Kazakhstan. By 1916 the people wanted to break out from Soviet rule and began a rebellion that killed 150,000 and displaced another 300,000. Ultimately they were unsuccessful in achieving autonomy at this point and the nation was an autonomous republic of the USSR for many years to come. Throughout the 1920s and 30s, a program was begun to begin industrializing and setting the nation up to collectivize agriculture, but the plan was ill-formed and more than one million people died of starvation.
Still under Russian rule, hundreds of thousand were forcibly moved to Kazakhstan from Korea, Germany, and Uzbekistan. Between 1954-1962 an additional 2 million Russians were moved into the area in an attempt to further develop the land. At this point, only 30% of the population were ethnic Kazakhs. After many years of unrest, Kazakhstan gained full independence from Russia in 1991.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russia getting involved in another quagmire. Where next?
https://www.politico.eu/article/kaza...an-nazarbayev/
Putin puts out fires across a former Soviet empire clamoring for change
https://www.politico.eu/article/kaza...an-nazarbayev/
Putin puts out fires across a former Soviet empire clamoring for change
To get back to the military aviation aspect of it Russia is apparently putting a fairly serious (and competent tbh) effort here. I'm surprised they have that many 124 airworthy 🤔
This should be effectively diverting Vad's attention from the Ukraine - at least for a while.
Last time they did a stunt like this they finished up in Afghanistan.............
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/k...aims-0kf97nm9n
President Putin has alleged that last week’s deadly unrest in Kazakhstan was carried out by terrorists who had received training in overseas camps, as the leader of the oil-rich central Asian state described the disturbances as a coup attempt.….
Putin’s claims came as news emerged of the deaths in rapid succession of three highly placed Kazakh security officials amid fears of a power struggle.….
Karim Masimov, the former Kazakh security service chief and ex-prime minister, was arrested at the weekend and charged with treason amid rumours of infighting among the country’s political elite. Masimov, 56, was dismissed by Tokayev last week at the height of the unrest.
This was followed by announcements today of the deaths of three senior Kazakh security officials.
Zhanat Suleimenov, the head of police in the Jambyl region, where protesters last week clashed with security forces, committed suicide, Interfax reported.
Azamat Ibraev, a colonel with the KNB state security agency was found dead in the courtyard of his home in Nur-Sultan, the capital, after apparently falling from a window.
Tanat Nazano, a police official in Almaty, died in his office of a heart attack, Kazakh media said.
A spokesman for Nursultan Nazarbayev, the former president who retains the title “leader of the nation”, said yesterday that he remained in the country and supported Tokayev….
Putin’s claims came as news emerged of the deaths in rapid succession of three highly placed Kazakh security officials amid fears of a power struggle.….
Karim Masimov, the former Kazakh security service chief and ex-prime minister, was arrested at the weekend and charged with treason amid rumours of infighting among the country’s political elite. Masimov, 56, was dismissed by Tokayev last week at the height of the unrest.
This was followed by announcements today of the deaths of three senior Kazakh security officials.
Zhanat Suleimenov, the head of police in the Jambyl region, where protesters last week clashed with security forces, committed suicide, Interfax reported.
Azamat Ibraev, a colonel with the KNB state security agency was found dead in the courtyard of his home in Nur-Sultan, the capital, after apparently falling from a window.
Tanat Nazano, a police official in Almaty, died in his office of a heart attack, Kazakh media said.
A spokesman for Nursultan Nazarbayev, the former president who retains the title “leader of the nation”, said yesterday that he remained in the country and supported Tokayev….
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Keeping in touch when able with a buddy who flies in Kazakhstan.
According to him plenty of foreigners are the "peaceful protestors". From neighbouring -stan countries.
Normal and sane locals are happy the CSTO stepped in to help.
According to him plenty of foreigners are the "peaceful protestors". From neighbouring -stan countries.
Normal and sane locals are happy the CSTO stepped in to help.
Night of the long knives, Kazakhstan style.
Fairly clear that this upheaval did not go as expected. No Maidan rerun here.
Presumably the sources of discontent also remain, even if the regime caved on the fuel price issue..
Fairly clear that this upheaval did not go as expected. No Maidan rerun here.
Presumably the sources of discontent also remain, even if the regime caved on the fuel price issue..
Zhanat Suleimenov, the head of police in the Jambyl region, where protesters last week clashed with security forces, committed suicide, Interfax reported.
Azamat Ibraev, a colonel with the KNB state security agency was found dead in the courtyard of his home in Nur-Sultan, the capital, after apparently falling from a window.
Tanat Nazano, a police official in Almaty, died in his office of a heart attack, Kazakh media sa
Azamat Ibraev, a colonel with the KNB state security agency was found dead in the courtyard of his home in Nur-Sultan, the capital, after apparently falling from a window.
Tanat Nazano, a police official in Almaty, died in his office of a heart attack, Kazakh media sa
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Funny how CSTO forces came in, stabilized the situation and left. All in less than a month. The funny part is that I haven't seen many articles in western propaganda, oh sorry, media, that they left.
Cute too that BBC and CNN like to call these guys protestors. Go on YouTube and see how peacefully these guys were protesting.
I recall that the peaceful protestors that stormed the US Capitol building received some hefty sentences.
Might be mistaken though, I usually see double standards and don't try to call something that is black as white and vice versa.
Cute too that BBC and CNN like to call these guys protestors. Go on YouTube and see how peacefully these guys were protesting.
I recall that the peaceful protestors that stormed the US Capitol building received some hefty sentences.
Might be mistaken though, I usually see double standards and don't try to call something that is black as white and vice versa.
Even funnier is that the CSTO forces were there in 48 hours in thousands, but it took two weeks to get out. Smells like it was all set up.
And it was reported by western propaganda:
https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/13/...rom-kazakhstan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-intervention/
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=82243668
https://www.dw.com/en/kazakhstan-rus...ays/a-60384521
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...an-2022-01-13/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/11/w...ia-troops.html
https://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...8ca0cd22a4b58c
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pac...test-crackdown
Very cute is to call the protestors foreign terrorists. How on earth did thousands of foreign terrorists get into the country in the first place.
And it was reported by western propaganda:
https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/13/...rom-kazakhstan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-intervention/
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=82243668
https://www.dw.com/en/kazakhstan-rus...ays/a-60384521
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...an-2022-01-13/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/11/w...ia-troops.html
https://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...8ca0cd22a4b58c
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pac...test-crackdown
Very cute is to call the protestors foreign terrorists. How on earth did thousands of foreign terrorists get into the country in the first place.
